Honestly, in my childhood opinion, it was fine, just trying out food and drinks (whether from shopping or restaurants), testing electronics and arcade games, maybe even buying some toys or going to indoor play areas.

Though the novelty of it soon worn out gradually, taking a walk and peek at around these areas for anything interesting is good once in a while, even if you're not buying anything.

Edit: on sec thoughts, should I place this in the urbanism community? And just so you know, I'm not an American, so I wouldn't know what butcherism might occur in the implementation of malls.

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    https://jacobin.com/2014/04/the-last-shopping-mall

    US/Austria:

    His plans were for large state-owned indoor agoras that would literally contain the market forces that were running rampant outside their walls. It was a modernist vision for the refounding of American public life. Many of the malls built by Gruen and his company in the 1950s retained elements of this promise, with his Southdale Mall in Edina, Minn., planned around an enormous common meeting place modeled on a European piazza.

    By the 1960s, Gruen was horrified by his creations. The shopping mall, along with the freeway and the cheap federally backed mortgage, had become part of the architecture of suburban white supremacy. Gruen returned to Austria in 1968 and furiously worked on a project to pedestrianize Vienna.

    Two years before his death in 1980, he stated, “I am often called the father of the shopping mall. I would like to take this opportunity to disclaim paternity once and for all. I refuse to pay alimony to those bastard developments. They destroyed our cities.”

    UK:

    In Britain, the progressive pre-history of the shopping mall has an even longer and stranger history. When the anarchist planner Ebenezer Howard outlined his utopian vision for British “garden cities” in 1898, he looked to create in each settlement a “crystal palace” which would combine the functions of London shopping arcades and indoor winter pleasure gardens entirely under one roof. While the structure would be financed and built by the local municipal authority, individual traders would be allowed to practice freely, though their number would be “limited by the principle of public opinion.”

    It took the intervention of the Luftwaffe for something like this vision to be realized in Britain. Coventry, a small city in the Midlands of England, is an unlikely site for what might arguably be the first shopping mall-like structure in the world. The total destruction of the city during the war wiped out the dense, packed medieval shopping streets that had characterized its pre–World War II history. With the help of the British government, the city’s head architect Donald Gibson was able to use new emergency legislation to effectively nationalize the center of Coventry, bringing almost 500 acres of land under the total power of the local authority.

    There, he built a holistically planned, partly enclosed multi-story shopping center — arguably the first of its kind in the world. While the city owned the land, provided the frame, the concrete steps, the bridges, the car parks, and the greenery, the tenants provided the temperature control, the music, and the lighting. The doors were never locked.

    Though the GUM in the SU did in my eyes resemble shopping malls a while before, too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUM_(department_store)

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Ahh, so I was pretty much completely wrong. I had remembered some of the vibe at least.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        You have been close and in terms of the GUM they are seen by some as precursors to shopping malls. I mean Corbussier's living machine does incorporate elements of them and is in fact very close to socialist ideas in architecture.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_d%27habitation

        Corbussier tried to incorporate living, but also social and communal functions as well as shops in a single building, the vibe is linked to brutalism and the concepts of taking those functions and qualities and thinking in terms of living spaces that have a central point for communal and commercial live was real existing socialist inspired or did influence those in the future i.e. the GDR and later soviet living quarters.

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          critical support for Lecorbusier for wanting to bulldoze Paris completely and build a huge airplaine runway in the downtown