• Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    It's really wild to watch the actually smart ghouls who could probably save america get pushed out.

    I expect at some point there will be a huge swing in their favour once a reality-check hits everyone about how much they've been fucking up over the years.

    Or maybe they'll just infinitely deny reality around them until the empire is completely crumbled. This seems to be what has happened to every other empire in history. They all just keep contracting until they're gone.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I feel like it happens with every large capitalist institution.

      My mind goes to all those consulting services that make up lies to push people away from organising and solidarity, and their staff is slowly replaced by people who really believe those lies.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        We really really need a culture of hard-truth under socialism or it is exactly what will happen to ascendant socialist societies when they get full of themselves and high on their own supply as well.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          The common perception is interestingly the reverse for the USSR, going from true believer revolutionaries to cynics propping up the system a few generations later. How true that actually is, idk

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Why didn't that happen to Cuba though? America's siege creating something to blame and making people go into siege mentality in defence of the nation? Proletarian nationalism?

            • keepcarrot [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              I'm sure people perceive Cuba as going through the same thing, hence my reservations about saying that it's an actual inevitability or even happened at all in the USSR, just the perception.

              I think really all forms of socialism would have to really grapple with all forms of institutional rot. How to maintain energy and competence over several generations within an organisation or a movement isn't something we've necessarily solved.