I don't think crack cocaine addicted street prostitutes are fully "consenting" to the economic and social torture being inflicted on them for the crime of being a poor woman. Hunter is just as much a rapist as his father and Trump
Yes a lot of prostitutes are physically forced into it and many more are economically coerced but prostitution is not a sex crime. Paying prostitutes is not rape.
Illegalizing prostitution is the real crime because it destroys the agency of women to choose to do sex work and limits their access to legal recourse if they have crimes done to them.
Asserting that all prostitutes are slaves with no agency infantilizes sex workers and undermines the struggle of sex worker unions.
Paying them isn't, the rape is the rape part with the sexual assault not the payment for said sexual assault.
Illegalizing prostitution is the real crime because it destroys the agency of women to choose to do sex work and limits their access to legal recourse if they have crimes done to them
Libertarian argument that idealistically ignores economic coercion and the impossibility to consent under these conditions. Next.
Asserting that all prostitutes are slaves with no agency infantilizes sex workers and undermines the struggle of sex worker unions.
Everyone who gets raped should get justice and their rapists should be stopped and the law should protect them not protect their rapists and systematize and tax and benefit from that systematic rape.
"Economic coercion" is a fact of animal life. Unless you are a plant who lives and dies by the whims of the weather we all have to work to survive.
Following your logic professional athletes should get sent to prison for every tackle, trip, foul, check, etc. as their opponents are economically coerced into being assaulted. If profit incentive makes every action non consensual then nobody in the history of ever has done anything by their free will. This course of thinking makes the term "consensual" meaningless as it would be completely theoretical.
If prostitutes aren't having consensual sex than nobody is. All sex is transactional. Ideally the transaction is that each party is pleasing the other in exchange for being pleased but this is never the entirety of the exchange. There are always a ton of other motivations and unexpressed and unconscious reasons and desires. Prostitution is simply the process of taking the guess work out of the transaction and making the expectations clear cut and simple.
Sex work is the same as any other service or entertainment job. (Prostitution is only a specific expression of the general prostitution of the labourer -Marx) All people have to work in order to sustain themselves even under Communism. "from each according to their abilities..."
Sex work is a viable and valuable profession. Not everyone is capable of finding and maintaining a sexual relationship and while ending capitalism might help a lot of those people it wont help them all. The majority of consumers of sex work are working class people who are too hurt by capitalism to find a non-profit outlet for their need for physical affection. Capitalists rich fucks engaged in "bougie decadence" is a minor part of the industry by volume.
Would you deny the proletariat music and film by destroying all jobs in entertainment? Would you deny them therapists or counselors? Why would you deny them the physical and emotional comforts of a prostitute?
Yes the industry is full of bad actors and exploitation in the worst ways but those are flaws with capitalism not the industry itself. Same thing with drugs. There is nothing inherently bad with getting high but the systems of exploitation and abuse that come from and feed into the recreational drug industry are horrific.
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I don't think crack cocaine addicted street prostitutes are fully "consenting" to the economic and social torture being inflicted on them for the crime of being a poor woman. Hunter is just as much a rapist as his father and Trump
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Finally someone with common sense in the thread.
Yes a lot of prostitutes are physically forced into it and many more are economically coerced but prostitution is not a sex crime. Paying prostitutes is not rape.
Illegalizing prostitution is the real crime because it destroys the agency of women to choose to do sex work and limits their access to legal recourse if they have crimes done to them.
Asserting that all prostitutes are slaves with no agency infantilizes sex workers and undermines the struggle of sex worker unions.
Paying them isn't, the rape is the rape part with the sexual assault not the payment for said sexual assault.
Libertarian argument that idealistically ignores economic coercion and the impossibility to consent under these conditions. Next.
Everyone who gets raped should get justice and their rapists should be stopped and the law should protect them not protect their rapists and systematize and tax and benefit from that systematic rape.
"Economic coercion" is a fact of animal life. Unless you are a plant who lives and dies by the whims of the weather we all have to work to survive.
Following your logic professional athletes should get sent to prison for every tackle, trip, foul, check, etc. as their opponents are economically coerced into being assaulted. If profit incentive makes every action non consensual then nobody in the history of ever has done anything by their free will. This course of thinking makes the term "consensual" meaningless as it would be completely theoretical.
If prostitutes aren't having consensual sex than nobody is. All sex is transactional. Ideally the transaction is that each party is pleasing the other in exchange for being pleased but this is never the entirety of the exchange. There are always a ton of other motivations and unexpressed and unconscious reasons and desires. Prostitution is simply the process of taking the guess work out of the transaction and making the expectations clear cut and simple.
Sex work is the same as any other service or entertainment job. (Prostitution is only a specific expression of the general prostitution of the labourer -Marx) All people have to work in order to sustain themselves even under Communism. "from each according to their abilities..."
Sex work is a viable and valuable profession. Not everyone is capable of finding and maintaining a sexual relationship and while ending capitalism might help a lot of those people it wont help them all. The majority of consumers of sex work are working class people who are too hurt by capitalism to find a non-profit outlet for their need for physical affection. Capitalists rich fucks engaged in "bougie decadence" is a minor part of the industry by volume.
Would you deny the proletariat music and film by destroying all jobs in entertainment? Would you deny them therapists or counselors? Why would you deny them the physical and emotional comforts of a prostitute?
Yes the industry is full of bad actors and exploitation in the worst ways but those are flaws with capitalism not the industry itself. Same thing with drugs. There is nothing inherently bad with getting high but the systems of exploitation and abuse that come from and feed into the recreational drug industry are horrific.
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