Even the shit-to-average stuff we have now is so expensive (even though it probably costs cents on the dollar to produce vs dairy)

  • mine [she/her,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I was told c/vegan is in the works but it's since been delayed for reasons unknown.

    It's hard to find good theory on animal welfare, so in addition to patting each other on our backs for our very clear and rightfully earned moral superiority, I'd like a place to share reading suggestions too.

    Also i want vegan cheese that's a source of protein and not just coconut oil.

    • GothWhitlam [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Good old Peter Singer is a good place to start for theory. I'll see if I can pull together a larger list at some point.

      Kinda hard to think of theory based on this, as it's basically "murder is wrong"...

      Also, nutritional yeast, as mentioned below. Just mix some in with literally everything you eat if you like that cheesy taste. Good source of B vitamins and protein.

      • mine [she/her,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        thanks! of course i worship at the alter of nooch, but it doesn't stretch when you put it on a damn pizza!

        also yeah singer's a great starting point, but i lose him when i try to flesh it out with larger leftist frameworks. he puts a hell of a lot of responsibility on individuals' actions over larger systemic change (iirc he argued they're morally one in the same at some point). also his some of his ethical arguments kinda dance around fashy when it comes to people with disabilities. would be great to have a dedicated community where we can try to compile resources like they do in other coms. and if you've personally got a list to share, please do make a post - it would be super helpful!

        • GothWhitlam [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Singer is always a good first step for people as he's written easily and makes some really obvious points.

          Very critical support though. For ever good point (speciesism), he seems to follow it up with a fucking stupid point (bestiality is ok, animals can consent)

          I know his whole shtick is to stick to his philosophical guns, but god damn it gets tiring.

          I have noone else though - I think Singer was my first, I continued to ignore veganism, I grew the fuck up and then decided one day that I don't hate animals.

          Of you have anything share away!