Despite it being propaganda and making him money , still an inceedibly sad way for an adult to spend his time.

  • Krause [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Does he cry about the PRC South China Sea claims? that's the only part I'm interested in, not watching otherwise some-controversy

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      i don't understand what the south china controversy is even about. There is a map that just says Asia

      • PZK [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        My understanding is that the line that is drawn sort of caters to China's claim to the to the South China Sea. Multiple countries claim the area as their territory in sort of a pissing match over it being used as commercial fishing, shipping, and military sovereignty. The reality is that they all just share it. But if you are a country in the area it behooves you to claim you own it as well if another country is trying to say they do. If for example The Philippines had their claim of the South China Sea unopposed, over time there would be international precedent that it is their territory.

        It seems frivolous if you don't live in that part of the world, but it is taken quite seriously by the countries invested.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          I can see that but A the map literally doesn't have any countries labled and B it's a barbie movie not a naval base it's not going to affect legal claim over ocean territory

          • PZK [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I mean, sure. Its a Barbie movie, but the real question that needs to be asked was why was the dotted line on the map in the first place? It didn't need to be there, but it deliberately was by western movie studio to appeal to a Chinese market. By effect it is going to ruffle feathers.

            It comes down to simply not being a part of that political region. You don't seem to think it is a big deal, but they certainly do. There are even islands that are part of the disputed area.

            Many nations are not taking too kindly to the idea that China is saying they basically own all of it, and the only reason Hollywood agrees with them is $$$. porky-happy

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              yes but it doesn't matter what hollywood says because hollywood doesn't get to decide who owns it. That's a matter of international law and navies

              • PZK [he/him]
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                I guess I don't know how else to explain it. It isn't just these countries, but countries around the world that hold a tight grip on what people are allowed to see in media and entertainment because ultimately the populace will eventually affect the bureaucracies that you describe. Any nation needs it's populace to at least notionally back an idea that something is not just property of another country by simple claim. Much of the relentless infatuation with capitalism in the west is a result of a constant flow of curated information and culture. It is why it is so hard to combat capitalism because leftists are essentially shunned, debilitated, and attacked because the prevailing propaganda depicts them as a threat to norms. Westerners that live in "free press" countries live in a highly censored environment whether they realize it or not, and the purpose it serves is so either the people continue to support the norms, or are at least are pacified from overthrowing them. What you are seeing in this incident is the Vietnamese version of this. The Philippines even went at length to review the film first before deciding they would allow it.

                There is a reason media is tightly regulated. If you allow your population to be convinced that the South China Sea does in fact belong to China as sovereign territory, will they be as supportive in contesting that narrative? There isn't any overhead governing body between these nations that says who owns what. It's literally just one nation's word vs another's. Many of these nations are not exactly good friends. This scenario is sort of like your house being backed up to a pond and one of your neighbors claiming they own the pond so you can't use it. The difference is here there is no one to enforce any claim on your behalf.

                Vietnam is not going to accept the idea, or reward this international "normalcy" regardless of how jokingly or stupidly it is depicted because at the end of the day, the line is implying territory that belongs to what is clearly going to be China in that blob of a drawing. Saying "it just says Asia" is not going to fool them. Where you are seeing a silly line, they are seeing a reinforcement of an idea on an international scale.

                For the record, you are correct that the whole situation is silly. But understanding why there is enough tension that this situation happened is important.

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  My thinking is that China will get the territory because they're bigger, they're richer, they have a seat on the UN security council, and no one who theoretically could intervene for Vietnam here like America or Russia actually cares

                  the barbie movie compared to all that is completely irrelevant

            • RedDawn [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              It didn't need to be there, but it deliberately was by western movie studio to appeal to a Chinese market.

              No way lol, it doesn’t look anything like the actual line nor does any part of the map even look like China, it’s not intentional at all , it’s a case of people reading something into it like a Rorscharch ink blot and getting upset.