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        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Again, speaking in terms of "absolution" is useless. Penance is the failure to process guilt or communal rejection in a healthy way. There is no sin and we aren't Saint Peter, there is only what is and isn't useful.

          • Sheepy [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Why do you feel the need to come to the defense of the enforcers of empire?

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Mainly I just hate bad analysis. I have no sentimental attachment to these people. In fact, on a personal level, they repulse me.

              If they are still in the service and not vets, I think they probably should not be recruited. I was with everyone else shouting at the Gravel teen who wanted to join the Airforce before getting back to doing anti-imperialism.

              But committing crimes in the past isn't a Mark of Cain and should not be treated as one.

              • Sheepy [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                It is not "bad analysis" to not accept imperial enforcers who have not in any way worked to right the wrongs they have committed.
                This "Mark of Cain" shit is just appropriating leftist language to absolve reactionary murderers.

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  It's a Biblical metaphor, not "appropriating leftist language".

                  There is no cosmic ledger. What matters is that they help solve problems, not their relation to the problem to begin with. Now it just so happens that perpetrators are in some respects often thr best positioned to alleviate problems they caused, but a vet who had been deployed overseas is typically the demographic that this is literally the least true for in the entire world. Should you keep a closer eye on them? Absolutely, but don't demand that they fly to Kabul for the privilege of getting beaten to death before they can actually do something productive.

                  • kropotkinisrecruitin [she/her]
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                    don't demand that they fly to Kabul for the privilege of getting beaten to death before they can actually do something productive.

                    why not? why shouldn't soldiers of imperialist oppression dedicate themselves to rectifying their harms? I am only sympathetic to the soldiers who flied the military to join those they where oppressing, such as the many defectors in Korea and Vietnam. If they are willing to sacrifice their life to be the imperialist boot then they should at least have the will to wage war against it.

                    most vets expect sympathy and care for being "betrayed" by the military. left not with honor but with ptsd and poor healthcare. if they didn't want sleepless nights then maybe they shouldn't have volunteered to kill innocent people for the bourgeoisie. they're no better than any colonialist oppressor, past or present, and they should only be trusted with on a very short lead.

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