Look I'm as much "fuck cars" as the next guy but riding a motorcycle on a highway is unironically suicidal. I personally know a guy who got in a bad crash on one but miraculously survived; he had a year long recovery period but will have various pain and dysfunction in his body for the rest of his life. I also know some people who did pathology rotations (state medical examiner office, autopsy basically) and the big three categories of bodies coming in were drug overdoses, suicides, and motorcycle crashes.

One of the facebook comments links to a seventh person who died a few days before these on June 18th: https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/motorcyclist-killed-sr-530-crash.amp

    • itappearsthat
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      6 months ago

      if he succeeded in convincing you that would have done more for your long term health and risk of death than literally any other intervention so I don't blame him for trying

      I know a lot of medical providers and they see a lot of mangled bodies from motorcycle accidents.

        • itappearsthat
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          6 months ago

          if it's literally a matter of not being able to afford it then fine, but if you can afford it you are trading a very, very large amount of risk to save that money.

            • itappearsthat
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              6 months ago

              you came into a thread about how a lot of motorcyclists died and now are complaining about how condescending it is to be told that what you are doing is unsafe

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                • itappearsthat
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                  6 months ago

                  Not eating vegetables 200 micromorts

                  Drinking once a week 100 micromorts

                  Hate doing cardio 500 micromorts

                  Riding a motorcycle 27,000 micromorts

                  Bad sleep hygiene 300 micromorts

                  someone who is good at risk management please help me budget this i am going to die in two years

              • rogrodre [none/use name]
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                6 months ago

                The fatality rate for motorcycles is about the same as small planes, anybody arguing that it's safe is not very smart and they just want to be as annoying as possible before they bite it.

                  • rogrodre [none/use name]
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                    6 months ago

                    The woke scolds at hexbear are telling me not to ride my noisy death machine even though I started the conversation by massaging statistics to make it seem much safer than it is.

      • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Your risk of death is 100%. I drive a convertible even though it is much more dangerous than a sedan in a rollover or T-bone. Many of us here shoot guns, do direct action, have no health insurance, etc. As long as they're registered organ donors, why should doctors hassle bikers? Bikers know the risk better than the general population, they just want it more.

          • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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            6 months ago

            I suppose bikers will go for routine checkups and respond to the doctor, "Jeez, I've been riding for ten years and nobody ever told me it was dangerous!"

            The lessons are the same from every public health concern: risky sex, obesity epidemic, smoking. Badgering people is really fucking annoying for everybody involved - so annoying that they'll have worse healthcare outcomes in general - and basically nobody will make lifestyle changes because of it. The most you can do with non-structural solutions is get people to take prophylactics or wear a helmet.

    • egg1918 [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      If you eliminate people riding without proper gear, people riding without motorcycle licenses, and people riding inebriated, the death statistics for motorcycles get cut by more than half.

      Learning this fact was a huge reason I finally sent it on my dream of owning a bike. And holy shit am I glad I did, I haven't had this much fun in years.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      I hate talking about motorcycles with people because they think I’m strange when I tell them I don’t want to ride one or be a passenger unless everyone has helmets, protective gloves, airbag vests, etc. It seems excessive, and I’m sure some of it may be snake oil, but some people really do think they’re epic stunt actors who just need a pair of shades and black jacket to be safe.

      Everyone also thinks I’m overreacting when I tell them to wear a seatbelt in the back of the car. If you don’t value your life, fine, but I rather not have you break my spine and kill or paralyze me because you think physics make an exception for you just because you sit in the back. Fucking HATE passengers. Fucking HATE drivers of any vehicle. I want to drive a large one seat vehicle so people can’t bother me. A tank, i guess.