Why do you suppose the Ukrainian attempted ethnic cleansing of it's eastern regions was not talked about by NATO aligned media? Why do you suppose every territory liberated by Ukraine sees a sudden massacre of russian speakers? Why do you suppose NATO aligned media shows the corpses of russian supporters as though Russia killed them? Why do you suppose all parties left of far right were banned by the Ukrainian government? Why do you suppose Stephan Bandera is now an icon of the Ukrainian state ideology? Why do you suppose the Ukrainian government believes asians and russians are incapable of humanity? Why do you suppose NATO aligned media never includes Africa, South America and most of Asia when talking about the international community? What is your opinion on the NAFO death cult? Why do you suppose NATO invaded and killed millions in the middle east over the past 20 years, yet no one was indicted?
I get it, it can be hard to say killing civilians is bad. You used a lot of words but just couldn't get it out but that's okay because we both learned a lot along the way!
Killing civilians is a terrible thing. Such is war. I don't know in what part of the international community you live in, but my reality is that for every given year of my life NATO was engaged in either a war, a trade war, or in political assassinations and coups. Millions upon millions of deaths, not to mention the impoverished and the enslaved. I only wish more countries could resist them. Thankfully, Russia can protect their own. More unfortunately the Ukrainians were lied to. They elected a man on the promise of peace, that man, who now sees Apartheid as a model to follow, continued the banderite agenda without a care in the world.
I'm sure you like to pretend to think NATO is bad. But you don't. Not really. The germans too, cried on TV about how sad they were about the genocidal wars in the middle east. But they helped anyways. That's why you have no answers for me or for the dead. You don't have a care in the world, for NATO is a garden and the world is a jungle.
Whats with the bee in your bonnet about getting people to say "Russia bad"? NATO is worse and the people here don't generally support their arming the far right Ukranian regime to keep the war going until every fighting age Ukrainian is dead just to hurt Russia.
Thats not a coherent response. Seriously. In this case what is the alternative? What could putin have done in your opinion? Peaceful negotiations with the west? He did that for 8 years. The west used that time for arming ukraine. And then simply ignored the previous acords.
So what is the alternative. Simply capitulate to the west? They tried that. It is the worst fall in the standard of living in recent history. And guess what nato decided it was not enough becauserussia was more useful as an enemy.
Let nato ethnically cleanse the russians from estern ukraine. And then let this roge regime host a huge army at the russian border?
If anything the minsk acords, like the iran deal should teach us that the west is incapable of negotiation.
Opposing the designated enemy's participation in a war is not meaningfully different than any hawk's position.
You're still supporting escalation of the war and more civilians getting killed or displaced.
If you're against civilians getting blown apart in Ukraine, as someone living in a western country, your only option is to oppose your side's participation in the war.
We saw this same shit happen with WWI. The correct position on two imperialist powers at war was and still is revolutionary defeatism.
Why do you suppose the Ukrainian attempted ethnic cleansing of it's eastern regions was not talked about by NATO aligned media? Why do you suppose every territory liberated by Ukraine sees a sudden massacre of russian speakers? Why do you suppose NATO aligned media shows the corpses of russian supporters as though Russia killed them? Why do you suppose all parties left of far right were banned by the Ukrainian government? Why do you suppose Stephan Bandera is now an icon of the Ukrainian state ideology? Why do you suppose the Ukrainian government believes asians and russians are incapable of humanity? Why do you suppose NATO aligned media never includes Africa, South America and most of Asia when talking about the international community? What is your opinion on the NAFO death cult? Why do you suppose NATO invaded and killed millions in the middle east over the past 20 years, yet no one was indicted?
I get it, it can be hard to say killing civilians is bad. You used a lot of words but just couldn't get it out but that's okay because we both learned a lot along the way!
Ps I agree NATO bad
Get this smug lib shit out of here
Killing civilians is a terrible thing. Such is war. I don't know in what part of the international community you live in, but my reality is that for every given year of my life NATO was engaged in either a war, a trade war, or in political assassinations and coups. Millions upon millions of deaths, not to mention the impoverished and the enslaved. I only wish more countries could resist them. Thankfully, Russia can protect their own. More unfortunately the Ukrainians were lied to. They elected a man on the promise of peace, that man, who now sees Apartheid as a model to follow, continued the banderite agenda without a care in the world.
I'm sure you like to pretend to think NATO is bad. But you don't. Not really. The germans too, cried on TV about how sad they were about the genocidal wars in the middle east. But they helped anyways. That's why you have no answers for me or for the dead. You don't have a care in the world, for NATO is a garden and the world is a jungle.
Really cool that you know more about me than I do.
I bet we have lots of beliefs in common. I just don't understand or support your reluctance to say Russia is doing some very bad things
Whats with the bee in your bonnet about getting people to say "Russia bad"? NATO is worse and the people here don't generally support their arming the far right Ukranian regime to keep the war going until every fighting age Ukrainian is dead just to hurt Russia.
Whats the alternative?
Lmao
Thats not a coherent response. Seriously. In this case what is the alternative? What could putin have done in your opinion? Peaceful negotiations with the west? He did that for 8 years. The west used that time for arming ukraine. And then simply ignored the previous acords.
So what is the alternative. Simply capitulate to the west? They tried that. It is the worst fall in the standard of living in recent history. And guess what nato decided it was not enough becauserussia was more useful as an enemy.
Let nato ethnically cleanse the russians from estern ukraine. And then let this roge regime host a huge army at the russian border?
If anything the minsk acords, like the iran deal should teach us that the west is incapable of negotiation.
Whats the alternative here?
Opposing the designated enemy's participation in a war is not meaningfully different than any hawk's position.
You're still supporting escalation of the war and more civilians getting killed or displaced.
If you're against civilians getting blown apart in Ukraine, as someone living in a western country, your only option is to oppose your side's participation in the war.
We saw this same shit happen with WWI. The correct position on two imperialist powers at war was and still is revolutionary defeatism.