cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140

Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true

  • Dr. Jenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube
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    11 months ago

    Yup, my understanding is there is a lot of oil in Ukraine (I think donbas specifically but don't quote me on that). And arguably more importantly, a major pipeline runs through Ukraine. My understanding is the EU is currently very reliant on Russian oil and they would very much like to not be. Hence, why Ukrainian membership to NATO is so attractive.

    I think a lot of people in the West dismiss Putin as a nutjob, but I think there is a rational reason for controlling Ukraine. Oil is Russia's largest export after all.

    All of that isn't meant to excuse Russia; it's unethical to murder for oil. But it's intellectually lazy to dismiss a rational actor (albeit an unethical actor) as crazy. But capitalism gonna capitalism. And until we put an end to capitalism, people are going to continue to murder for money.

      • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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        11 months ago

        It's really not hard to understand. Ukraine discovered huge gas deposits in Donbass, which threatened Muskovy's ability to control the price like they wanted. There was no US coup, and the horrors inflicted have been from Muskovy.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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              11 months ago

              Google "Jewish scholars double genocide myth" and be ashamed you'd ever use the phrase "red fash" and then do better.

              How does this antisemitism always show up in anticommunism? /s

              • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                11 months ago

                Shocking; redfash tries to silence their critics by accusing them of antisemitism with no justification or support whatsoever. Typical red herring from someone who has no real argument.

                • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                  11 months ago

                  Shocking: anti-communist denies allegations of anti-semitism while repeating nazi propaganda (Google "Jewish scholar double genocide theory" for more info on why equating communism and nazism carries water for nazis)

                  • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                    11 months ago
                    1. straw man, bc I never claimed double genocide, and 2) just bc double genocide can be used by Nazis doesn't mean it isn't true. Dialectics has really rotted your brain, comrade
                    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                      11 months ago

                      You're equating communists and fascists by calling communists red fash. You're doing a double genocide theory rhetoric.

                      • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                        11 months ago

                        No, I'm calling communists what they are: fascists. You extrapolated the rest in your head and argued against it, i.e. a straw man. Dialectics at its finest