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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140
Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140
Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true
https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/574eb599-dd4d-49cb-8991-780902d6865f.png
This is soft holocaust denial. There was never a holocaust equivalent that communists did. For that matter there was never a genocide of the Americas that communist countries did.
Holodomor, anyone?
The holodomor was made into a genocide by hearst press, which was a nazi publication run by a nazi who literally met with Hitler to discuss pr strategy. When it first made its rounds in the US it became obvious that it was a fraudulent story. And now people are believing nazi propaganda that people in 1930s America (which was pretty supportive of nazism) saw through pretty quickly.
The famine was terrible, and there was incompetence abound, but after the soviet archives were unsealed even people like anti-communist historian Robert Conquest reversed their position on whether it was a genocide.
Comparing this to the murder of 11 million people that the nazis considered subhuman is disgusting.
Ok, gotcha. So the line at which the ideology is considered bad enough to be banned is below Holocaust, but above Holodomor. Nice to see it quantified
No, a party residing over a famine is not the line at which we should dismiss an ideology.
You're joking right?
Holomodor Great Chinese Famine
Well if it is on Wikipedia it must be accurate. /s See my other comments in this thread.
You’re joking right?
My other comment:
The holodomor was made into a genocide by hearst press, which was a nazi publication run by a nazi who literally met with Hitler to discuss pr strategy. When it first made its rounds in the US it became obvious that it was a fraudulent story. And now people are believing nazi propaganda that people in 1930s America (which was pretty supportive of nazism) saw through pretty quickly.
The famine was terrible, and there was incompetence abound, but after the soviet archives were unsealed even people like anti-communist historian Robert Conquest reversed their position on whether it was a genocide.
Comparing this to the murder of 11 million people that the nazis considered subhuman is disgusting.
Your text is quite on level with Holocaust deniers. It's astonishing how much the communism promises of utopias can wash such horrors.
I don’t usually jump in here but I’d disagree that the USA hasn’t genocided the indigenous peoples of this hemisphere
I'm confused by what you're saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide
They killed a full quarter of their own country. Not in a neglectful kind of way, but full on mass executions, killing fields, concentration camps kind of way.
Pretty comparable, if you ask me.
The cambodian genocide was carried out by fascists who were supported by the US and shitty Chinese policy. They were crushed by socialist vietnamese soldiers.
Pol pot claimed to be socialist. The nazis called themselves the national socialist party, and we all know based on their record that was a lie, as communists, socialists, and trade unionists were their biggest domestic enemies. Next you'll blame the holocaust on socialists, despite the socialists being in the camps. Don't be so credulous.
Edit: also, the US killed many Cambodians with mass bombings during the same era, which is a fun fact that is relevant given the fascists there were allied with the US government as they carried out their mass killings.