AFAB people not being hyper-feminine isn't internalized misogyny.

It should be pretty obvious that not being the patriarchal standard of 'feminine' is going to get AFAB people the most shit from the patriarchy. If we wanted to 'avoid misogyny' we sure as shit wouldn't be doing this.

An AFAB person dressing the way patriarchal men want them to in order to avoid social ostracization would be internalized misogyny, not the other way around.

I don't know why idiots think that make-up and dresses are genetic. Bro, men used to make up, powdered wigs, and heels. And don't get me started on togas and robes, that shit is just a dress. It's not inherently feminine. We made that shit up.

I'm not 'rejecting womanhood' and I don't have internalised misogyny just because I'm AFAB NB. This is literally just me being who I am inside. I won't be gaslit into performing gender in a way I don't want to.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    I don't know why idiots think that make-up and dresses are genetic. Bro, men used to make up, powdered wigs, and heels. And don't get me started on togas and robes, that shit is just a dress. It's not inherently feminine. We made that shit up.

    skirts used to be warrior's attire

    retvrn to tradition of hot beefy dudes in skirts and makeup please

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      In what sense do liberal feminists think violating gender norms is misogyny? Not saying this to defend them, I just can't think of any examples off the top of my head.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        11 months ago

        scaremongering about attacks on femininity by masc women, valorizing consumption of beauty products as feminist praxis, the entire "bimbo feminism" thing

  • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Same men who cry about gender conformity and traditional roles will turn around and talk about who "looks good" on the football field. And then espouse how we need to turn back the clock with our media to when... Bugs Bunny wore a dress?

  • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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    11 months ago

    Agreed wholeheartedly.

    It's actually wild because as I've started presenting more masculine and really embraced those parts of myself, my visceral disgust of femininity has all but disappeared. You could argue (and I indeed would) that my internalized misogyny has actually lessened by embracing a more masculine way of presenting myself.

    Femininity is cool and good, it just isn't for me, and that's fine!

  • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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    11 months ago

    Alternatively, the other way around with terfs. I'm trans. No, I'm not sexist and patriarchal for being trans and doing typically feminine things. It's really lose-lose to be transgender, you get hatred whatever you do.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    Bro, men used to make up

    Still do in some circumstances; actors and politicians on stage and in film are almost always wearing a certain amount of makeup.

  • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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    11 months ago

    Reactionaries will always attempt to co-opt and pervert the language of the left because it is the language of liberation and its truth resonates with the masses of people. But the reactionaries’ mind does not understand its truth, just the power it has, so they will always work to unmake it.