• Mac@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    Hot take but i agree with Plato on the first half. People are too dumb, blind, and easily manipulated for a democracy.
    But obviously a benevolent, kind, and uncoercible king with the interests of the people at heart is not realistic.

    I dont have a solution. 🤷‍♂️

    • TheVelvetGentleman [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      A benevolent machine. It doesn't even need to be AI. Let's worship a clockwork automaton.

    • HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      When you think about it, it's pretty unreasonable to expect the entire population to become educated and engaged about everything involving running a modern society. Modern government is incredibly complicated. It's no wonder that tribalism wins over nuance. Who has time for nuance when they're worried about their jobs and families?

      That's why I'd like to see some form of sortition tried. Draft a jury to do nothing but learn about a single topic for a period of time. Make all of their contact with the outside world public record to ensure nothing shady is going on. Let representatives from all sides of the issue address them. Then let them make their decisions and go back to their normal lives. No campaign donors or political careers to worry about.

  • Faresh@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Hover-over text of ExistentialComics' comic:

    Some people have called Plato the first totalitarian thinker, but if you look at what Democracy is producing these days it's hard to not think he had a bit of a point...

    And text beneath comic:

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    As for Plato, he criticized democracy heavily, claiming that it gave people too much freedom, and if anyone could be elected by the ignorant masses, it would be too possible for selfish people who only wanted power and wealth to get into power. Democracy, ironically, would inevitably lead to tyranny and demagogues. He thought a better system would be for the wisest, most virtuous, and most selfless people to govern society, which of course would be philosophers like himself. How this system was immune to corruption is a little unclear to me, but given what's going on with democracies lately you can probably at least say he has some good points.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      How this system was immune to corruption is a little unclear to me

      Only further proof of democracy's failure.