Yah I'm aware but fuck Hogan for going along with it. The level of damage is huge I can recall just how powerful and positive that shit was and losing it was genuinely a blow. Whatever criticism is levelled against some of their content is irrelevant, what followed was a very obvious slide rightwards that went completely unchallenged without their existence. I know they were libs but in their absence it became so fucking obvious that they were a leftwards pushing effect.