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US mainstream news outlets like CBS News with actual reporters on the ground at the time: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/
Classified US communications with assets on the ground: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
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More Read: https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/
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This massacre of innocent bicycles cannot be allowed to stand.
Congratulations citizen! You have been awarded with a 600 FICO score for promulgating sinophobic nonsense. If you also prove that China is the Big Evil, you can get an additional 250 FICO score.
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I don't think you see the irony in using the dead trope of "Social Credits" when an actual credit score exists in FICO and can be used to deny you housing, loans (and therefore access to education), jobs, and more. And if you think it's just financial transactions, try looking at what companies like LexisNexis have on you that it coalesces into things like "RiskView", or how much of a profile skip tracing agencies have on everyone. Then you have the profiles built on you by several government domestic (and foreign) surveillance agencies. And you have the profiles built on you by several big tech companies. Just because there's not a single, unified, government-sponsored surveillance and consumer rating agency doesn't mean the tangible effects of such disparate systems aren't identical to what you claim happens in China (i.e., denial of services and access). It doesn't matter if it's 50 different entities controlling parts of the system if the end result is identical.
Yes, not supporting a government that does genocide at this very moment against Uyghurs definetly somehow means I support a dead genocidal regime.
This might be controversial to you, but genocide is not a good thing.
imagine unironically thinking "everyone i disagree with is a nazi"
Just like there were totally WMDs in Iraq and Kuwaiti babies were definitely thrown out of incubators
Forgot to add things in the post before! Maybe you won't see the updated post for some glitch in the federation!. Putting this here anyway:
US mainstream news outlets like CBS News with actual reporters on the ground at the time: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/
Classified US communications with assets on the ground: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
Image Analysis
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More Read: https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/
From your CNN link:
But there's no question many people were killed by the army that night around Tiananmen Square, and on the way to it — mostly in the western part of Beijing.
Saying that the "Tiananmen Square massacre" killings actually happened in other parts of the city may be an important academic distinction, but it isn't a particularly stirring defense of the army's actions.
Let me be clear here, No one's denying skirmishes and bloodshed. But the way it is portrayed in the western media is actually far from the ground reality. Have a read at that btw even WikiLeaks provide evidence of fabrication by the US
Considering this is the image of Tiananmen that lives in the western popular consciousness, I think there is real value in deconstructing this myth though. When I learned that western journalists are all in agreement that no massacre took place in the square itself, I became more interested in researching the events myself because other Western views concerning what happened could also be misleading or outright lies
spoiler
they were
I wish the title wasn't so clickbaity, since it sounds like they are trying to deny that there was violence at all, which would be out of touch with reality.
