• notabot@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    So, you're saying that Putin sent demands to NATO, saying they either bend to his will by removing their protection from a large portion of their member states or he'd start a war, and by not signing it NATO are responsible for starting the war? I just want to fully understand your position on this.

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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      2 months ago

      removing their protection

      Oh please, please do tell me about NATO's defensive operations. I promise you it's not a trick, there is at least one NATO operation that took place on the soil of a member state.
      Then we can talk about all of NATO's invasions of non-member states and take a look at how reasonable it is to demand that a group that have specifically designated you as their enemy withdraw from bordering states.

      • notabot@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        NATO's having a presence in a member state is protection. It reduces the chance of opportunists like Putin invading.

        Putin tried to call NATO's bluff, using Ukraine as a bargaining chip. NATO didn't blink, and so he started a war. He doesn't get to do the abuser thing of saying "see what you made me do". This is on him, and him alone.

        He can demand that NATO withdraw all he likes, and I'd have some sympathy for that if it didn't involve invading another country as leverage. Note, I say some sympathy, not that NATO should actually do it, especially as Putin's regieme has threatened other countries already.