Grimes said that the conversation eventually revealed that Musk believes, somewhat erroneously, that "every way that you transition can cause fertility issues" — an unsurprising sticking point for the billionaire, who has fathered at least 10 children and is reportedly obsessed with fertility.

  • AlicePraxis [any]
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    11 months ago

    I doubt there was ever a time when he wasn't transphobic though. The fact is, almost everyone on the planet over the age of 30 was transphobic by default and had to learn not to be (and most still haven't).

    Like I was born in the 90s and didn't really know about the existence of trans people until my teens and there were almost no out trans people until I was in my 20s. If you were weren't transphobic you were an absolute outlier and 99% of the population would think you're insane for not being a bigot. And I live in a liberal state.

    • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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      11 months ago

      It's frankly shocking in hindsight how many movies in the 90s and early 00s used "attractive woman used to be a man" as a joke. Like no other punchline, just "haha she used to be a man" or the even more disgusting variant of "male main character shocked and disgusted by knowledge they slept with post op trans woman". Like you're right, pop culture barely acknowledged trans people as even existing normally until... Fuck, barely 10 years ago?

      • YaaAsantewaa [love/loves, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        In the 1990's making fun of gay people on national TV like SNL skits was perfectly acceptable

        People forget same-sex marriage was only legalized here around 2004, that's only 19 years

        • DoubleShot [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I attended a Christian university in the early 00s. Obviously not a representative sample size but guys around me used the f-word slur like it was going out of style. And while a bunch of white Christian college guys are gonna use that word a lot more, it’s use was still fairly common among other people I knew.