Ukraine sacks army recruitment chiefs in anti-graft shakeup
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President Volodymyr Zelenskiy broadened his battle against graft on Friday, firing all the heads of Ukraine's regional army recruitment centres as the war with Russia enters a critical stage.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851

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  • duderium [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    My Ukrainian friends disagree and I'll have to defer to their judgement seeing they live there.

    Which Ukrainian friends? The ones with swastikas tattooed to their foreheads?

    Your idea of "independent" is also a country subjugated to Russia. What an improvement! Not withstanding that Putin's own war declaration speech denied the existence of a Ukrainian cultural identity, calling them all Russians. You are literally supporting someone who consider an entire culture as lesser not worthy of existence. Wow, such great ideals you hold!

    This is projection and genocide denial, but scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Why did the Maidan coup government ban the Russian language in Ukraine and wage a campaign of extermination in the east claiming thousands of lives? Why did this government construct a statue to Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera in Lviv? Why are all socialist parties outlawed in Ukraine? Why does the Ukrainian constitution make reference to preserving the genetic purity of Ukrainian blood? Isn’t all of this strongly suggestive of the possibility that Ukraine is, in fact, run by Nazis, as almost everyone outside of the imperial core (and nearly half of Ukrainians themselves) believes?

    You delude yourself into thinking Russia is "fighting your fight", all I see in your argument is one boot replacing the other. If only you could live under the yoke of Russia to see what kind of nightmare you'd be living under.

    It’s extremely clear to me as a Jewish person that anyone fighting Nazis is a potential friend. But maybe for someone whose grandparents were probably Nazis themselves, it’s not so clear. I’m afraid of asking you your opinion about the Roma people or immigrants fleeing capitalist devastation in Africa or the Middle East—I’m guessing your ideas and actions happen to just coincidentally line up with those of Nazis in these cases as well?

    You delude yourself "one greater evil justifies another unrelated evil", that's a really messed up moral compass. Do you also support Israel's actions then because what happened to them in ww2? What evils are allowed to happen, and which ones aren't in your strange moral compass.

    Israel should not exist. I always support the world’s workers—while you support the tiny minority of people who enslave them and drink their blood.

      • duderium [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah sure, I'm a gay man with Nazis as friends. You are delusional

        How are gay people treated in Ukraine? What's their situation like in the USA these days under the adamantine aegis of the demokkkrats?

          • duderium [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Oh my god dude. I asked your opinion about these issues, and guessed about your beliefs. You still haven't answered my numerous questions because you have no answers—this is why you are so angry and so defensive—you are still trapped inside the invisible prison of liberal ideology. You (almost certainly) believe that Russia should be exterminated—sorry, I mean, their government should be overthrown and replaced with amerikkka-backed definitely-not-Nazis, who will certainly have the best interests of the Russian people at heart. This probably means you feel the same way about various underclasses around the world, including homeless gay people, including homeless trans people, including all the LGBTQ+ people exterminated in amerikkka's recent imperialist wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc. Oh wait, I forgot, you said you were against america’s actions abroad—although you trust america in Ukraine and you trust the american media that lied about Iraq. If I'm mistaken, please enlighten me!

              • duderium [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                More baseless accusations, I'll laugh about it next week when I go party with my Russian friends. They'll be extremely joyed to hear I have secretly hated them the past decade.

                Refusing to answer the question yet again. What should happen to Russia? Answer the question without sounding like a Nazi. You can’t!

                Dude you told me I'm a Roma hater, what a fucking guess, I literally donate to them, I interact with them especially whenever I travel through Central & Eastern Europe. My boyfriend's grandma even housed them, ffs. Get the fuck out of here with your small-minded hatred hidden behind "I'm just guessing".

                “I throw some money their way (at tax-deductible do-nothing nonprofits) sometimes, my many numerous friends—whom I definitely have and are not made up at all—support them, now stop asking me about what should be done with them because I cannot answer this question just as I cannot answer any of your other questions!”

                Fuck that noise I told you my stance in my first response to you and you went "hur hur Marxist party must be kkk", go be a better person first, it's not my job to make you one.

                The SDP ordered the Freikorps to murder Rosa Luxemburg, I’m guessing this is the “marxist” party you voted for. I know you’ll deny it, but you’re so much more transparent than you realize. You’re only against amerikkka when it comes to issues that the corporate press gave up on supporting many years ago. Wherever it fully counts, you are 100% onboard with whatever the nazis in the CIA are telling you via whatever bourgeois media you lap up like the running dog you are. This is why you ignore the nazis running the USA and whatever european shithole you live in and focus all your ire on Russia instead.

                  • duderium [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    You’re not answering questions again because you don’t have any answers. If your Ukrainian friends are making excuses for a government run by Nazis, I have some bad news for you.

                      • duderium [he/him]
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                        1 year ago

                        Did I hallucinate the statue which the coup government in Ukraine constructed in Lviv to honor a Nazi collaborator?

                          • duderium [he/him]
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                            1 year ago

                            You know the stele to Banderas in Lviv was constructed in 2007 right?

                            Planning for the monument began almost the instant the USA succeeded in its long-term project of annihilating the USSR, causing millions of deaths, way back in 1993. (See page 3.) It’s almost as though the idea of Ukrainian nationalism is fundamentally united to Nazism!

                            But even then, let's say what you say is right, does that mean all Ukrainians are Nazis because one government build a monument? Does that mean the average person deserves to be bombed by Russia? Does it make right the broken families I've had the displeasure of interacting with who have lost their children to missiles fired by Russia?

                            I never said that all Ukrainians are Nazis. I said that their government is run by Nazis, and that people excusing a Nazi government (like yourself) are likewise Nazis.

                            I’m not sure why you care so much about the Ukrainian people though when you don’t give a damn about the millions that have perished (and the tens of millions who have had their lives destroyed) thanks to America’s wars subsequent to 9/11. If you cared about these people, surely you would at least raise an eyebrow when America orders you to support their NATO imperialism without question? Surely you would think that maybe mass murderers shouldn’t be trusted?

                            barely any were constructed

                            Dude you are such a joke. How many Nazi monuments do you pass during your daily commute? ONE Nazi monument is too much! There shouldn’t be any monuments to Nazism anywhere! Why do liberals have such trouble understanding that Nazism is not only bad, but also suicide! Don’t you remember how Hitler’s life ended? And who drove him to that point?

                            It’s interesting you bring up Utkin, who hasn’t been seen in public since 2016. When Chinese tennis players vanish for a day, liberals around the world have tantrums and meltdowns, but when the Russians were embarrassed by this Nazi and possibly even made him disappear, total silence from liberals, especially given the fact that public displays of Nazism are illegal in Russia and encouraged in the USA. Highly interesting. But there are actually Nazis in Russia, they’re just working for the CIA.

                              • duderium [he/him]
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                                1 year ago

                                But why are you allowing statues of genociders in your country then? Seems a bit hypocritical.

                                Europe / Northwest Asia really isn’t sending its best. Death to amerikkka.

                                Who cares when he was last seen, I care that he was in recent history awarded by Putin "the Denazifyer".

                                Why hasn’t he been seen in seven years? If Russia is so proud of him, where did he go?

                                lol, further projection because you know you are being a hypocrite. I haven't said a good thing about a Nazi, but you're intent in even explaining away one awarded by Putin.

                                Your supposed refusal to take sides on the conflict is obviously in support of the status quo. You fool nobody but yourself.

                                "Hey you haven't discussed the other tragedies in the universe, clearly you are soulless" what a tool response. Go deal with the tragedy that's unfolding now, or are you of the opinion "if one get's to commit atrocities, so can I!"

                                Who caused the genocide in Iraq? Is your home country by any chance allied to this nation constructed on genocide and slavery?

                                Ah yes, everything I don't like is the CIA. Russia funding Nazi's in Europe? CIA!

                                Reading sources is apparently asking too much of this extremely intelligent and highly educated person. But if you don’t read, it’s only a matter of time before you find yourself excusing Nazis the way you do. You are really, truly, deeply in over your head, unaware of NATO being founded by “former” Nazis, unaware that the CIA rescued thousands of Nazis after WW2, unaware of the existence of Operation Gladio, unaware that the CIA has admitted to controlling the corporate media you devour (Operation Mockingbird), yet thinking that you can lecture someone who has actually done the reading and knows about these things. Who is the American here exactly?

                                Ironic you keep yelling at me about it because I couldn't stop 9/11, you could've though, you're an American. That's on your conscious.

                                Dude how could I have stopped 9/11? I was 12. I don’t know why you’re running away, I really want to hear this. Also explain please how capitalism is not authoritarian. Then let’s hear about the slavery and genocide your own country is perpetrating in the global south! Which companies in your home country are “investing” in the poorest nations on Earth?