Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and Scotland should be granted full independence and England should be divided up in several smaller countries all under a peacekeeping force.

  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    People forget Scotland became part of the UK because they tried to do colonialism and were really bad at it.

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Scotland became part of the UK because a bunch of aristocrats wanted the same power england had. The average peasant scot had no say really in the matter.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        When someone says a country took an action, they mean the government or the powerful. When you say America commits war crimes it isn't implying that every US citizen has personally done a war crime

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 months ago

            So pointing out the average Scottish peasant had no say in matters of government isn't worth pointing out

            • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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              3 months ago

              I mean it is when people bitch at scots for disliking and England and wanting independence, and then do the soy wojack face and say "but scotland participated in the empire too You have no right to complain".

              Which people often do. Like it's some hidden knowledge that the upper classes of lowland scotland were balls deep in the british empire.

              Again, if we're going by that logic wales shouldn't bitch either.

              I don't know, I'm done with this thread though and you either agree with me or don't.

              ( Not you specifically my friend, just people reading this thread in general)

                • dannoffs [he/him]
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                  3 months ago

                  I was just talking taking a cheap shot at Scotland for Darien Scheme lmao.

                  • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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                    3 months ago

                    I mean yeah I get it. I'm just kind of biased and emotional. My ex was an expat from Scotland and super pro indy.

                    I'm still good friends with her

                    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                      3 months ago

                      I'd wanna distance myself from england as well, but it shouldn't count as a hand wash

                      • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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                        3 months ago

                        That should for Wales and Ireland as well.

                        They played their part. No complete hand washing for anybody involved in imperialist projects.

                        Obviously england was the ringleader (especially the southeast aristocracy) and scotland was a junior partner, but Wales and Ireland most definitely touched poo as well