Krolden is taking issue that they can see the vpn traffic at all, as in they can see that youre using a vpn (re: ISP knows who you are) and can sell that info to third parties who will now use your identity associated with that IP address (because ISP sold them info that the VPN connection came from you)
theres ways around this of course and its actually somewhat easy to measure how big your fingerprint is. most sites of course wont have access to this paid info so reducing fingerprint is only useful to hide from google or cloudflare, and even then they wont know specifically what data you have, just what IPs you accessed. also since so many people use the same VPN it makes it very difficult to track you, you need to have a large fingerprint which can be mitigated by using linux (or with piracy, having a separate server that doesnt fuck with anything but torrents and so on)
ISPs can also tell if youre using i2p or tor so ultimately its just a masturbatory argument, of course nothing is perfect, we all know that the only way to be truly secure is to steal internet from someone else without them knowing who you are, and you also need to be sure they dont have cameras and you have a sophisticated setup with qubes + vpn + (maybe) tor depending on what you want to do. this is of course an absurd amount of security for looking at pig poop memes on hexbear
It's not that they can see you using a vpn, it's that it is basically useless (and possibly counter productive) if you're trying to keep your browsing habits unlogged.
this is of course an absurd amount of security for looking at pig poop memes on hexbear
yes entirely. im just kinda anal about such things and try to make sure people that whatever they do on a network of physical hardware they don't control can be got to at some level. even if it is encrypted they're still collecting it in hopes to crack it in the future.
If you wanna go real meta then if the people tracking you have a useful traffic fingerprint of you then they could technically track you through whatever network you connect.
It's encrypted data ffs. They can see precisely nothing without the means to decrypt it.
Krolden is taking issue that they can see the vpn traffic at all, as in they can see that youre using a vpn (re: ISP knows who you are) and can sell that info to third parties who will now use your identity associated with that IP address (because ISP sold them info that the VPN connection came from you)
theres ways around this of course and its actually somewhat easy to measure how big your fingerprint is. most sites of course wont have access to this paid info so reducing fingerprint is only useful to hide from google or cloudflare, and even then they wont know specifically what data you have, just what IPs you accessed. also since so many people use the same VPN it makes it very difficult to track you, you need to have a large fingerprint which can be mitigated by using linux (or with piracy, having a separate server that doesnt fuck with anything but torrents and so on)
ISPs can also tell if youre using i2p or tor so ultimately its just a masturbatory argument, of course nothing is perfect, we all know that
the only way to be truly secure is to steal internet from someone else without them knowing who you are, and you also need to be sure they dont have cameras and you have a sophisticated setup with qubes + vpn + (maybe) tor depending on what you want to do. this is of course an absurd amount of security for looking at pig poop memes on hexbear
It's not that they can see you using a vpn, it's that it is basically useless (and possibly counter productive) if you're trying to keep your browsing habits unlogged.
yes entirely. im just kinda anal about such things and try to make sure people that whatever they do on a network of physical hardware they don't control can be got to at some level. even if it is encrypted they're still collecting it in hopes to crack it in the future.
If you wanna go real meta then if the people tracking you have a useful traffic fingerprint of you then they could technically track you through whatever network you connect.