It's kind of depressing that lgbt spaces here are empty because there's been no attempts to reach out/ reconcile with the existing trans community in chapo or any of their concerns, but there's a big ol post on main weaponizing lgbt identity against china which actually recently took a great stride in providing legal protection for trans comrades seeking medical transition. And with a prominent post in this very community being a cis person questioning the need of affirming pronouns for comrades across the gender spectrum. It's more than ok to pose these questions but it raises the issue of what the priority is in affirmatively making sure there is a space here in chapo for our queer comrades to have a home, vs being a home for cis comrades to affirm their own perceived tolerance.
What happened with with the existing trans community in Chapo?
Due to things that happened in the discord they've all formed into their own independent community because they didn't feel their concerns were being given proper consideration. If it were just 1 or 2 I could understand not fielding the issue, but it's like 100+ which puts it at 1% of the 10,000 people in the discord, and like 3% of the people on this site. Which tracks for it being near all of chapos at least active trans population.
What happened in the Discord? I'm not caught up on it.
Well that's one of the bigger points of contention, the lack of transparency in a lot of the decisions that are being made. Along with the fact that those decisions seem to be working against creating an affirmatively positive space for the trans comrades to participate in. Confirmed by the fact that trans comrades are in fact not participating in this space.
I’m trans and I’m participating right now, except apparently one of my posts you say is supposedly weaponization of my own identity (lol) and imperialist propaganda
Maybe that is a reason other trans people aren’t participating. Because any question about where we stand and where our rights stand is not permitted by some of you.
Ok im talking about the 100+ others. but clearly its my fault exclusively they aren't posting here. ya got me!
yeah totally. gottem.
As a fairly neutral observer who has more knowledge about what happened than most people, when the sub was banned there were a lot of hasty decisions that got made during the transition to the Discord, including giving some people mod privileges who probably should not have been there. There were a few specific incidents that were mishandled over the couple of weeks, and there was a specific one that led to many people who are genuine comrades getting banned. I know the admins care, and they followed through with some of the fixes that were brought up by those who were banned, but I also think they are overwhelmed between maintaining the community and maintaining the actual development of the website.
I hope that both sides can find a way to reconcile in the next couple of weeks as we settle in, because I know there is a lot of frustration and I don't think that the ~100 or so people who are out on their own deserve to be banned necessarily. One way that this can happen is that the dissatisfied people can set up their own instance with more protective policies for trans folks that federates with chapo.chat (though there can't be too much bad blood for this to happen either). I'm not trans so I can't comment on whether the moderation of the Discord or chapo.chat is good or bad on those issues, my assumption at this point is that it depends and comes down to a couple of specific mods and the feeling that "good mods" didn't do enough to make right.
I didn't know it was that many, Damn. There should definitely be efforts to address this issue.