How can you say that debates mean anything anymore when its just 2 old men yelling over each other for an hour and a half
god I love that this meme now has an emoji version, and that I got it ..
How can you say that debates mean anything anymore when its just 2 old men yelling over each other for an hour and a half
that's literally always been true, google Diogenes the Cynic
Diogenes was a damn genius, he was one of the first to recognize that we're all pieces of shit with no dignity and he embraced that fact
It seems to me that it's more he recognized the "fakeness" and "over-philosophizing" of modernity, and tried to emphasize the virtuousness of reconnecting to the material and understanding "what is real."
"[Diogenese] destroyed his single wooden bowl he possessed on seeing a peasant boy drink from the hollow of his hands. He then exclaimed 'Fool that I am, to have been carrying superfluous baggage all this time!'"
100%, forgive my ignorance but it always strikes me as odd how the thoughts of Greek Philosophers from over 900 years ago are still considered quite relevant. One would think that somebody else in that time would have come up with more "advanced" (whatever that means) philosophies in the time between them and us.
Probably im being too much of an inebriated STEMlord comparing Philosophies with something like the evolution of a design of a pump or a weapon across time and foolishly thinking theres an "electric motor" equivalent to Diogenes' ancient philosophy or sthing, idk, the debate was still a total joke
Speaking specifically of Diogenes, there is an electric motor equivalent.
Diogenes is considered the "Father of Cynicism," however there aren't really any comprehensive records of his teachings. Alot of what we know is taken from Crates of Thebes who kind of picked up Diogenes's torch. This would later be taken by Antisthenes (who would be called "Founder of Cynicism") where he attempts to staple ethics onto these ideas. Eventually this gets absorbed into Stoicism but I don't know the whole story there. All I know from there is Stoicism kinda gets rubbed out in the 3rd century by Christianity.
Edit: also there was a kind of revival of this Cynicism when Peter Sloterdijk and Michel Foucault had their fascinations with Diogenes.
That is really interesting, thnx for sharing. Its cool to see how these complex ideas have evolved over time.
Lol them Christians seem to have been at it for a long time smh
How can you say debates meant anything before being two old rapists yelling at each other?
