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The White House on Wednesday downplayed CNN polling showing most Americans oppose Congress providing additional funding to support Ukraine in its war with Russia ahead of a reported administration request for more aid.

Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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    11 个月前

    The Ukrainians fought hard to get out from under the thumb of Russia

    What?

      • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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        11 个月前

        The one where NATO backed coup overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine? That seems like the opposite of fighting to get out from under foreign thumb

        • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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          11 个月前

          The one that happened because their leader was passing laws making him a dictator and violently putting down protesters leading to more protests causing him to flee. Also any support came after that was over, not before.

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            11 个月前

            See, if he were a legitimate leader he would have let the west supplant him in a violent coup WITHOUT reacting to it. That makes it justified post hoc.

            You have to let the nazis march. It's the rules.

            • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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              11 个月前

              So people in their country should never fight if their leader is working to surpress their rights and become a dictator. They just have to wait for elections that will never be fair again if they even happen. Also he did react to it by fleeing, Putin is not the leader of Ukraine, he has no business reacting to anything.

              Putin did march his nazies into Ukraine after that if that's what you mean.

              • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                11 个月前

                Were you at the January 6th riots, per chance? Your sure have the same reasoning as them.

                • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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                  11 个月前

                  Not in the US as I never been there. Also was Biden becoming the dictator of the US? Like if he was declaring protests illegal, giving cops legal rights to kill anyone who does protest and basically make himself the supreme ruler of the US then yea it would be justified.

                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                    11 个月前

                    The January 6 protesters certainly believed he was becoming a dictator. I guess the riots were justified.

                            • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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                              11 个月前

                              OK then I'm going to stay with my point that the laws passed that triggered the Euromaidan were very protestable and January 6th in the US was a bunch of crazies that fell for propaganda due to poor US education. Also that protests are a good way to get rid of a wannabe dictator.

                              • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                                11 个月前

                                Yes, I'm aware that the liberal position is that couping democratic governments is acceptable if they personally agree with it, but unacceptable when other people do it.

                                • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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                                  11 个月前

                                  This is my last reply since I would need to flip my phone to hit the button and that's way too much effort but this seems to have run it's course anyways.

                                  I'm pretty sure the liberal position would be that all violent protests are bad, no matter what. That's why I was asking if that was your position so I could see if you were the rare lib that supports Russia's war.

                                  Also I don't think a coup is when people drive a wannabe dictator out if their country though English isn't my first language. And even if it is I absolutely support people exercising their right to protest and remove a leader trying to dismantle a democracy. I'm not sure what mental gymnastics you are trying to do to equate that to Jan 6th in the US but it makes you sound like a lib.

                                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                                    11 个月前

                                    This is my last reply since I would need to flip my phone to hit the button and that's way too much effort but this seems to have run it's course anyways.

                                    Good lord, this is the most "I'm totally not mad" sentence I've ever seen.

                                    I'm pretty sure the liberal position would be that all violent protests are bad, no matter what.

                                    It's not, liberals are fine with violent protests when it's against their enemies.

                                    Also I don't think a coup is when people drive a wannabe dictator out if their country though English isn't my first language.

                                    Yes, that absolutely is a coup.

                                    And even if it is I absolutely support people exercising their right to protest and remove a leader trying to dismantle a democracy.

                                    So you support the January 6th riots

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            11 个月前

            I mean there's a recording of Victoria Neuland talking about setting it up from months before but whatever.

            • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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              11 个月前

              Ah yes, the same point 30 other have brought up as well even though what was said was who they would think the leader is going to be which they, to no ones surprise, said the leader of the opposition, ya know, the guy who would be in power if their system worked like it should. That's like someone saying they like the guy as leader that got all the votes.