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So this is the internal politics dems are supposedly better than reps? Lol it's just
Showas usual. Also what is the woman equivalent of Uncle Tom?
Also what is the woman equivalent of Uncle Tom?
Aunt Jane. (I prefer 'Aunt Sally', but apparently it's Jane.)
Harris is a continuation of the Clintonian dynasty and its “winning” strategy of triangulation, which is why both parties keep moving further right.
also known as trasformismo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trasformismo
Ffs can we stop with the middle ground centrist bullshit and actually do some good with some "progressive" policies.... You know the "progressive" that is barely left of center anywhere else in the world.
They never will. What they call 'progressive' policies don't make anyone any money; and don't advance anyone's hegemony. And with these crackers, that bar is in Hell.
The worst part is that adopting a tiny modicum of "progressive" politics would actually make them (the country as a whole, but also the bourgeoisie) more money in the end, just based on the fact that you can't run a capitalist society in any meaningful sense if your working class can't afford to live (and thus make surplus value available to the owner-class). More public transport would make it hella easier for a business to recruit a workforce from places with lower rents and further commutes, more money in the pocket for consumers means more consumption, etc. etc. There was that survey a few years back that showed that if wealth were to be redistributed fairly, the average American would be almost twice as rich.
The problem is really that certain segments of capitalist society would not be so overwhelmingly powerful, and easing up on military adventures would mean a resurgence of workers rights in many parts of the world.. It's not enough to be the richest country if you can't also make the rest of the world poor.
She said she would sign the bipartisan immigration bill, even though larded with a ton of bullshit, including 'the wall' as a portion. And the headline is "She flip-flopped and wants to build Trump's wall?"
Hack journalism at its best.
Yeah its about ethics in corporate journalism, not about who wants to build walls and kill immigrants
She’s literally supporting signing a bill that funds building the wall. How is that not going back on her opposition to the wall? Not to mention the wall is probably one of the less egregious parts of that bill.
What is the “good” that I’m somehow opposing with my perfectionism? What is good about this bill? Preferably not in the form of the Wikipedia article for another thought terminating cliche.
This, then, is a lie. She supports the bipartisan border package that trump killed.
She supports the bipartisan border package that trump killed.
If that's true, then trump has done more harm reduction in the last four years than biden
That's why i put "if that's true" in there. Republicans are going to vote down whatever, including the border bill they were refering to, or the Isreal aid you mentioned. It wasn't actually stopped by Trump. But the fact both were stopped is good.
Personally I don't care if politicians do good things out of spite or out of good intentions. If they're doing good things by shooting down a terrible bill, that's a good thing.
Legit, let the stopped clocks be right. What, should we prefer they be wrong even more often than they already are?
Sure, but after trolling for a bit they still let the weapons through. There was never a shortage.
Yet you somehow think that's worse than you supporting the ongoing genocide to spite the Republicans, disgusting spineless worm
The bipartisan border package is horrible. It would cause a lot of harm
Tell me what it says that's so horrible. If you would, please enlighten me to what specific clauses are horrifying. Appreciate it!
Well first of all it gives the president the abilty to shut the border down until they figure out what the hell is going on - which is disgusting increase in executive power. It increases the amount of detention beds and detention officers - so increased concentration camp capacity and guards.
The whole thing seeks to solve the alleged border crisis - a right wing myth that the US's second right wing party has finally decided to vocally adopt. All that solving the border crisis means is more inhumanity toward people trying to cross the southern border due to the effects of climate change, US imperialism and neocolonism.
I hope you appreciate it smuglord border nazi
Well first of all it gives the president the abilty to shut the border down until they figure out what the hell is going on
Where in the bill is this stated?
The whole thing seeks to solve the alleged border crisis - a right wing myth...
I asked for specific wording clarification. While I appreciate the editorial, the source (you) is questionable.
It sounds as if you don't really know what you're talking about even though you're making this super emotional appeal but it's not backed up by fact one. And that's even after I asked for facts.
Your stance in no way influenced my thinking. What's more it makes me suspicious of you.
M'Liege, I have retrieved yon bill for ye.
“(3) ACTIVATIONS OF AUTHORITY.—
“(A) DISCRETIONARY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary may activate the border emergency authority if, during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 4,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day.
“(B) MANDATORY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary shall activate the border emergency authority if—
“(i) during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 5,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day; or
“(ii) on any 1 calendar day, a combined total of 8,500 or more aliens are encountered.
Now you may say, "Aha, we have you hyperbolic hexbears now, it clearly says that the president doesn't just get to shut it down until they figure out 'what the hell is going on'!"
Which is correct. What it does is tie their hands such that they must shut the border down when an arbitrary number is reached, so they don't have to actually do anything and can plead their powerlessness when it happens. After all it's not up to them, it's just a mandate of a conservative law... that they want to pass.
Curious if they'll move the goalposts or ignore this.
Your stance in no way influenced my thinking
"It's everyone's responsibility to talk me out of being a dipshit and if they refuse to waste time, that just proves me right. Oh and I want a detailed report on the bi-partisan border bill on my desk before my bed time or you're extra wrong."
The president being able to shut down the border (we all know which one btw) is literally the centerpiece of the bill that got the most attention and they flat out deny it. I guess i should have dusted off my MLA formatting guide a properly cited my post on the shit posting site
What's more it makes me suspicious of you.
Genuinely curious, do you think it matters to anyone in an online forum if you are vaguely suspicious of them? I'm not sure why you would even say that. What are you trying to accomplish?
My curiosity is piqued... do you think your questions to ethereal internet entities entreaties you to answer? What are you thinking Snidely?
Nah, whatever fella. We saw how you felt about it. Why are you returning to the trough now, weeks later?
Are we
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Your stance in no way influenced my thinking.
Buddy, we already knew that no amount of facts could influence your thinking. You're a liberal.
I'm not your buddy, asshole. Facts are all that affect my "thinking". You're an idiot.
Well first of all it gives the president the abilty to shut the border down until they figure out what the hell is going on
Where in the bill is this stated?
Biden said of the bill, “It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.”
To anyone saying to just go read the bill, I’d love for you to point me to an article that even names the name of the bill in question, let alone links to the full text of the bill. I just spent 10 minutes searching for it and I’m giving up because I have better shit to do.
Biden said of the bill, “It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.”
Jeeesus, what a fucking scoundrel. Literally just a Republican at this point.
Right? I didn’t know he’d said he would use the power like that before I’d read the article and I had to double check it was a Biden quote. What an evil fucking ghoul.
Because you don't want to look at the bill because you're racist and hate immigrants, multiple people have responded with multiple sources including the bill itself.
Now it's already very clear to everyone here that your "stance" wouldn't be changed by anything and you're simply masking your apathy and racism by feigning scepticism, but are you even going to try and come back here and pretend otherwise? I highly doubt it, but hopefully your brilliant truth-seeking mind will prove me wrong!
Because your too stupid to understand what you read and so you stupidly assume all the bullshit between your fucking ears is real.
Piss off asshole. Go wave your silly dick at some red hatted idiots and forget I exist. Fucking removed.
I did forget you exist until you came back to spew some garbage again 2 weeks later lol.
If you cared about facts you would have an argument for any of the massive amount of information that proved you wrong. But you didn't respond to any of that. Bye.
You realize it's weird to come back to an over two week old thread and start calling people slurs right.
Narrator: A common tactic of engagement from the liberal is feigning interest in a topic, as observed here. They undulate and warble in a way that mimics genuine interest to lure their targets into conversation, their goal, unknown. Science has yet to discover why a liberal will engage in this performance. Their target tries to engage with this dance in good faith, over time, as the target finds themselves talking in circles, they realize the deception. Not a completely useless exchange, however, as it signals to the rest of the spectors withing the area not to waste their energy, reserving it for another day.
Me: You're a fucking removed. You've no comprehension skills and you can't put forth the slightest logic. You do appeal to emotional nonsense well... republican much?
You can go read it yourself. Your blind faith will prevent you from doing so.
You know they haven't read it because the two things i mentioned are in the bill and they denied them being there lol
Hey here's a quick one, literally the first sentence is a readaptation of the 14 words! Would you look at that!
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So your saying the immigrant problem is actually a bunch of stupid insane white man emojis. Perfect response for this bullshit sub.
So your saying the immigrant problem is actually a bunch of stupid insane white man emojis. Perfect response for this bullshit sub.
harm reduction
