• GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      16 days ago

      FFXIV had a ton of WoW refugees, so that didn't help

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      16 days ago

      I played FFXIV for years, and unlike WoW (which I had previously played for years), the chuddery was generally concentrated in Ul'dah zone chat, or maybe whatever hub had vendors for end-game gear at the time instead of being basically everywhere.

      The chuddery did flare up more recently and get more widespread, unfortunately.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          16 days ago

          Sucks because XI at least today has a pretty inclusive and good base.

          I tried that one for a while but the whole "the purpose of grinding is to grind and the grind is the point" put me off. In FFXIV, I tended to spend most of my time at the game's given maximum level and just enjoying horizontal (or kind of diagonal) progress instead of "let's punch these critters for days on end."

          FFXIV tried to bring that back with the whole Eureka zone, but I hated it and lots of Eureka enjoyers were super toxic about anyone expressing dislike of it.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        16 days ago

        tourists.

        Such a perfect term for right-wing chud culture warriors who've never played the game's entries in their lives to show up and make money off outrage they stoke for youtube clicks then when the well dries up they disappear into the night.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          16 days ago

          I've noticed calling them tourists really pisses them off and makes them wander off from whatever intended chuddery they were otherwise going to do to overreact to being called that.

          Keep doing it!

          • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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            16 days ago

            It works because the narrative in their minds is that fake fans of the series are coming and making it "woke" to spite them. They don't like it when it turns out in reality they were the real fake fans all along.

    • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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      16 days ago

      People who play FFXIV are MMORPG fans, not necessarily final fantasy fans. As final fantasy games go, FFXIV is not very good due to its genre and business model