I do see what you mean now. I think for a lot of people, the idea of being surrounded by secret bigots makes them feel incredibly unsafe and is a big source of anxiety in their lives. It may seem unnecessary to someone who doesn't feel that kind of anxiety, but there really are a lot of bigots and toxic people in the fediverse who put in a good amount of effort to stay hidden. Getting these people to reveal themselves is as much a goal as driving them away or keeping them out. It's an important tool in the moderation toolbox for spaces where this is a persistent issue.
Some people have gotten very good at getting these people to reveal themselves too. I haven't seen all of these recent threads, but I suspect some of these strategies may come across as obnoxious to the uninitiated.
I had someone try and "get" me on Reddit once because I didn't like a comedienne's bit so it must have been that I hate women.
I don't doubt that it works, but like any test I'd bet there's unintended negative responses too. I can understand the importance, however. I'll try to use that knowledge to be more mindful in the future.
But that still leaves potential allies feeling unwelcome by the same measures that strive to keep bigots out. I suppose everyone is going to have a different metric for what is acceptable there.
All that being as it is I'm not entirely sure I'd be welcome in these spaces in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if a few people have blocked me today. C'est la vie. I can't change what has already happened.
I do appreciate the conversation we've been able to have.
I do see what you mean now. I think for a lot of people, the idea of being surrounded by secret bigots makes them feel incredibly unsafe and is a big source of anxiety in their lives. It may seem unnecessary to someone who doesn't feel that kind of anxiety, but there really are a lot of bigots and toxic people in the fediverse who put in a good amount of effort to stay hidden. Getting these people to reveal themselves is as much a goal as driving them away or keeping them out. It's an important tool in the moderation toolbox for spaces where this is a persistent issue.
Some people have gotten very good at getting these people to reveal themselves too. I haven't seen all of these recent threads, but I suspect some of these strategies may come across as obnoxious to the uninitiated.
I had someone try and "get" me on Reddit once because I didn't like a comedienne's bit so it must have been that I hate women.
I don't doubt that it works, but like any test I'd bet there's unintended negative responses too. I can understand the importance, however. I'll try to use that knowledge to be more mindful in the future.
But that still leaves potential allies feeling unwelcome by the same measures that strive to keep bigots out. I suppose everyone is going to have a different metric for what is acceptable there.
All that being as it is I'm not entirely sure I'd be welcome in these spaces in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if a few people have blocked me today. C'est la vie. I can't change what has already happened.
I do appreciate the conversation we've been able to have.