I am a Linux user, but I don't really know how most things work, even after years of casual use on my Main, I just started getting into Devuan and wondered then, what exacly does systemd do that most distros have it? What even is init freedom? And why should I care?

  • bamboo@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Systemd is the first program that runs once the kernel has started. It's job is mostly just starting up other processes, and managing those other processes. If you don't know what systemd is, then you probably shouldn't care about if you're using it or not, it's good software but there are fine alternatives.

    What makes systemd particularly interesting is that it is different from historical init systems. Historically these init systems were an unholy mess of shell scripts. This offers maximum flexibility, but limits the functionality of the init system itself. Systemd replaces these shell scripts with simple ini-like service files that allow everything to be declared simply and declaratively, and allows specifying more rich metadata, like dependencies. But it's different, and some people place a higher value on "how it's always been" than pragmatism. I personally have zero sympathy for them because throwing out objective progress to hold onto a broken system designed for 1960s computing is just dumb.

    • teft@startrek.website
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      11 months ago

      throwing out objective progress to hold onto a broken system designed for 1960s computing is just dumb

      Preach.

    • duncesplayed@lemmy.one
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      11 months ago

      I was with you until the last paragraph. Just about every init system is different from historical init systems. Do you really think OpenRC or runit or any of the other init systems people are using have any similarity to SysV init? I think you're attacking a strawman in the last paragraph. (Edit: Except Slackware users. Slackware still does init the way it's traditionally been done, but I can't think of anyone else who does)

      • Deathcrow@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        Do you really think OpenRC or runit or any of the other init systems people are using have any similarity to SysV init?

        Yes? OpenRC is certainly much closer to sysvinit than systemd and in many ways just expands upon it.