Heads up for anyone (like me) who isn't already familiar with SimpleX, unfortunately its name makes it impossible to search for unless you already know what it is. I was only able to track it down after a couple frustrating minutes after I added "linux" into the search on a lark.

Anyway it's a chat protocol

I feel like the answer is recycling deposits somehow. I've seen attempts at them here and there, but I guess we haven't quite figured out the details yet. I guess electronics are a bit trickier to set up a deposit system for than pop cans. Even the places that do have electronics deposits, often you have to drive to a special recycling centre out past the airport that's open 3 hours in the middle of the day, only for them to tell you that everything's glued together so they can't really separate out the parts they need and most of it will probably end up just going to the landfill anyway.

But theoretically, if we could get a serious deposit system that allowed for recycling to be profitable and gave manufacturers and incentive for making their stuff easier to take apart and recycling (and hence easier to repair), that would be pretty sweet.

I'm guessing childless adults are significantly less than that. Just thinking about my kids and all of their book readers, barking animal toys, light-up fairy wands, I have a bad feeling they may be bringing up that average.

Though the nice thing about kids' electronics is they never get obsoleted. A light-up fairy wand is just as fun in 2074 as it is in 2024. So they just get cycled through the 2nd hand mommy communities until they break. It was $40 new, you buy it "mostly undamaged" for $20, hope your kid doesn't scratch it too badly so you can sell it a couple years down the line for $10 or so.

The bad thing about kids' electronics is it's that for new stuff, it's really impossible to tell how long it's going to last. Could be 20 years, could be 20 minutes.

Sure! We can insure that for you! Oh we just noticed that our InsureLink service isn't connecting to your car. So I'll just need you to sign this waiver saying that you're declining the InsureLink Safety discount. Just sign right here. It's just saying that we cannot offer you all of our insurance services, just like if you get in an accident or something and we can't remotely verify what you were doing at the time, we can't help you. Great! And without the Safety discount your premiums will go up by only 372.50 a month.

The threat resides in the chips’ data memory-dependent prefetcher

Well that sounds extremely familiar. Nice to see the spirit of Spectre is still living on. The holy grail of speculation without any timing attack leaks is still eluding us, I guess.

I was saying Boo-urns.

It's true. And people try to jump on to similar things. "It's just like how email works!", or "It's just like how international phone calls work!"

Yeah, nobody has any clue how those two things work, either.

I'm going to reframe the question as "Are computers good for someone tech illiterate?"

I think the answer is "yes, if you have someone that can help you".

The problem with proprietary systems like Windows or OS X is that that "someone" is a large corporation. And, in fairness, they generally do a good job of looking after tech illiterate people. They ensure that their users don't have to worry about how to do updates, or figure out what browser they should be using, or what have you.

But (and it's a big but) they don't actually care about you. Their interest making sure you have a good experience ends at a dollar sign. If they think what's best for you is to show you ads and spy on you, that's what they'll do. And you're in a tricky position with them because you kind of have to trust them.

So with Linux you don't have a corporation looking after you. You do have a community (like this one) to some degree, but there's a limit to how much we can help you. We're not there on your computer with you (thankfully, for your privacy's sake), so to a large degree, you are kind of on your own.

But Linux actually works very well if you have a trusted friend/partner/child/sibling/whoever who can help you out now and then. If you've got someone to help you out with it, Linux can actually work very very well for tech illiterate people. The general experience of browsing around, editing documents, editing photos, etc., works very much the same way as it does on Windows or OS X. You will probably be able to do all that without help.

But you might not know which software is best for editing photos. Or you might need help with a specific task (like getting a printer set up) and having someone to fall back on will give you much better experience.

I'm curious about auto-regressive token prediction vs planning. The article just very briefly mentions "planning" and then never explains what it is. As someone who's not in this area, what's the definition/mechanism of "planning" here?

And not all GNU is Linux! Beyond the world famous GNU Hurd, there's also Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, and Nexenta (GNU/Illumos, which is the OpenSolaris kernel).

I think the most esoteric of them, though, is GNU Darwin (GNU/XNU). Darwin is the open source parts of OS X, including its kernel, XNU. There used to be an OpenDarwin project to try to turn Darwin into an actual independent operating system, but they failed, and were superseded by PureDarwin, which took a harder line against anything OS X getting into the system. GNU Darwin took it one step further and removed just about all of Darwin (except XNU) and replaced it with GNU instead.

Out of curiosity, were you born roughly in the early 1990s? I asked because I could have written very much the same stuff as you, except shifted back 10 years. By the year 2000, in my view, the Internet was already locked down and was a completely shitty version of what I felt "the real Internet" was like. Technology in the late 1980s and early 1990s was (from my view) hopeful and optimistic, constantly getting better (computers doubling in speed and memory and getting cheaper every year), and by the early 2000s, it was just shitty AIM and MSN Messenger and Windows-only KaZaA garbage with MySpace and shitty centralization like that. MySpace completely shit all over the early web rings.

I've come to realize that it's always been shitty. That's my conclusion after going on a nostalgia trip and watching old Computer Chronicles shows and reading old computer articles from my golden age, now through adult glasses. I just didn't understand all the politics and power manoeuvres at the time because I was a stupid kid who just saw cool things. Look at all the cool and exciting and great stuff that was happening in the late 1980s and early 1990s that I thought was so wonderful, and realize that it was mostly just shitty attempts by shitty power-hungry companies trying to lock down something cooler that had happened earlier.

The difference in the early days I think is that companies wanted to control us and make our lives as terrible as possible. They just couldn't because computers weren't powerful enough yet.

PGP itself is a bit of mess.

For one thing, there's really only one major/popular implementation of it these days, which is GPG. The codebase is arcane. Pretty major security vulnerabilities pop up constantly. It doesn't have stable funding. Several years ago the entire project almost collapsed when the world discovered it had been maintained for several years by a single person who didn't have any time or money to maintain it. The situation is a little bit better now, but not much.

(For this reason, people are starting to use age instead of gpg, as the code is much smaller, cleaner, forces safe defaults, and doesn't seem to have security problems)

But the bigger problem that was never properly solved with PGP is key distribution. How do you get somebody's key in the first place? Some people put their keys on their own personal (https) webpage, which is fine, but that's not a solution for everyone, and doesn't scale very well. Okay, so you might use a key server, but that has privacy implications (your identity is essentially public to the world) and centralizes everything down to a handful of small "trusted" key servers (since there would be no way to trust key servers in a decentralized way). We should probably just have email servers themselves serve keys somehow, but nobody's put that into the email standard protocols.

The fact that keys expire amplifies all the problems with key distribution, and encourages people to do really unsafe things with keys, like just blindly trust them. You can sign other people's keys for them, but that also does not scale very well.

The key distribution problem is something that things like Signal have "solved" with things like phone number verification, but there's really no clear way to solve it on something totally distributed like email.

Not all of these issues have disappeared, either. Anyone remember this headline from a couple years ago? The bottom 1MiB of memory space on x86 is just a minefield. It's impossible (like literally impossible) in general to know if certain parts of the address space are actual memory or are some weird part of your motherboard chipset or some other hardware. Windows I think still goes through the "wankery" of depending on chipset drivers to (accurately) know which parts of memory are actual memory.

Thankfully the 16-bit (though actually 20-bit but actually kind of more sometimes kind of but not totally) pains have all gone away. The move to flat 32-bit address spaces was a godsend.

It was, but it was (and still is) a Unix tool. I believe POSIX still requires that more be provided (even if it's just less secretly).

The original Unix more could only go forwards. Someone wanted to make something like more that could go both forwards and backwards, so he called it less as a joke (because "less" is a "backwards more"). For the past 40 years, everyone's realized that less is much better than the original more, so nobody uses the original any more.

(MSDOS took the idea of "more" before "less" caught on).

I always coveted the Tandy 1000, but I never got one. Which one did you have?

The #1 defining moment for me has to be Second Reality by Future Crew. We got it an a local BBS not too long after it was released. It was kind of like the birth of a new era, like "ahh so this is what PCs are actually capable of".

Another Oregan Trail generation here.

I'm curious about what's going to happen with Gen Alpha. Any other moms and dads here exposing their kids to retrotech? I have two little ones that I've made a DOSBox installation for (Mixed-Up Mother Goose and Donald Duck's Playground are their favourites). I do wonder how they're going to think about old tech when they're older. I haven't told them that it's "old" or "retro" yet, so they just think they're normal fun games.

You mean Linux isn't going to have 200% market share one day? Shit, I'm starting to think my calculations may have not been totally serious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center-pivot_irrigation

Just an FYI that at this rate it's only going to take another 115 years before Linux has 100% market share.