I absolutely disagree with the idea that voting fixes everything and it should be the sole focus. And I dont think its going to stop fascism, just slow it down (maybe). But it takes little effort for me to vote, so why not?
And I do really think Trump is a fascist and is enabling fascist. My neighbors are fascists. My community is filled with fascist. I make friends where I can and I own guns and ammo. I do what I can. But voting? Its this small thing that takes a little bit of time that might help out.
And I do think there is a less noticed benefit of campaigns. Like when Bernie ran and brought "Medicare for all" to light. We had a large shift in the US of people wanting something different. If a revolution is ever going to happen, we need that overton window to shift further to the left.
Yeah, again, it's all well and good to go out and vote if it's easy. It's (intentionally) not for everyone, though, and it's (definitely) not the solution we really need. We parody and lampoon the vote fetishists and liberal conception of the activity, those who use it as a self-actualizing process and believe in it whole-cloth, not folks like you trying to do any bit that might help. There's people who think they're good people and doing their part showing up to crank the blue lever every four years, all while the climate burns, women's and lgbtq and minority rights are stripped away, and warmongerers kill and maim millions for profit. They are complicit in their indifference, and the lie that #ing is enough keeps them in that comfortable state of inaction. Showing disdain and mocking what they consider holy is a strategic move to shake them from that complacency. You don't need to make the opposite mistake and feel bad about voting, though. As long as you understand how little it matters and don't propogate the myth around it and are organizing in more meaningful ways, then you're doing absolutely nothing wrong.
Now, one could make an argument that participation in voting at all lends the veneer of legitimacy to the system, but that's a bit less cut and dry than the criticisms of liberal voting and their attitudes about it.
I understand what you're saying. I think I just got some lib brainworms. Even though I know voting means so little, I think its the right move to vote.
And yeah, I get all the way the system isn't legitimate. It is what it is. I can participate while advocating for its change.
When I'm less drunk I'll come type up a constructive critique of the "I think it's the right move" position. I have more I could expound upon regarding that legitimacy matter.
And I think I get the legitimacy matter. Between the two party system, winner takes all, electoral college, lobbyist, the money needed to run, massive campaign donations, gerrymandering, voting intimidation, and.. shit.. probably a lot more that I'm blanking on. There just a lot of bullshit in the US voting system.
I absolutely disagree with the idea that voting fixes everything and it should be the sole focus. And I dont think its going to stop fascism, just slow it down (maybe). But it takes little effort for me to vote, so why not?
And I do really think Trump is a fascist and is enabling fascist. My neighbors are fascists. My community is filled with fascist. I make friends where I can and I own guns and ammo. I do what I can. But voting? Its this small thing that takes a little bit of time that might help out.
And I do think there is a less noticed benefit of campaigns. Like when Bernie ran and brought "Medicare for all" to light. We had a large shift in the US of people wanting something different. If a revolution is ever going to happen, we need that overton window to shift further to the left.
Yeah, again, it's all well and good to go out and vote if it's easy. It's (intentionally) not for everyone, though, and it's (definitely) not the solution we really need. We parody and lampoon the vote fetishists and liberal conception of the activity, those who use it as a self-actualizing process and believe in it whole-cloth, not folks like you trying to do any bit that might help. There's people who think they're good people and doing their part showing up to crank the blue lever every four years, all while the climate burns, women's and lgbtq and minority rights are stripped away, and warmongerers kill and maim millions for profit. They are complicit in their indifference, and the lie that #
ing is enough keeps them in that comfortable state of inaction. Showing disdain and mocking what they consider holy is a strategic move to shake them from that complacency. You don't need to make the opposite mistake and feel bad about voting, though. As long as you understand how little it matters and don't propogate the myth around it and are organizing in more meaningful ways, then you're doing absolutely nothing wrong.
Now, one could make an argument that participation in voting at all lends the veneer of legitimacy to the system, but that's a bit less cut and dry than the criticisms of liberal voting and their attitudes about it.
I understand what you're saying. I think I just got some lib brainworms. Even though I know voting means so little, I think its the right move to vote.
And yeah, I get all the way the system isn't legitimate. It is what it is. I can participate while advocating for its change.
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When I'm less drunk I'll come type up a constructive critique of the "I think it's the right move" position. I have more I could expound upon regarding that legitimacy matter.
I'll be happy to hear it.
And I think I get the legitimacy matter. Between the two party system, winner takes all, electoral college, lobbyist, the money needed to run, massive campaign donations, gerrymandering, voting intimidation, and.. shit.. probably a lot more that I'm blanking on. There just a lot of bullshit in the US voting system.