• GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    Orbit currently uses a version of Mistral LLM (Mistral 7B) that is locally hosted on Mozilla’s Google Cloud Platform instance.

    Hmm.

    >locally hosted

    >Google Cloud

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 months ago

      It’s a thing.

      Remember how the cloud is someone else’s server? Now you can buy it (or lease) and bring it home, and it becomes only sorta someone else’s.

      Amazon and Azure offer their own on-prem products.

      • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        "Locally hosted" means it's running on the local host. In this case, that would mean on the same computer running Firefox.

        Calling something that is only accessible over the internet "locally hosted" is outrageous doublespeak.

            • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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              3 months ago

              If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter” would you be confused why they didn’t move a rack into your house?

              My question is why are you projecting your limited interpretation as a global truth?

              • Mr. Satan@monyet.cc
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                3 months ago

                In IT context local is a well establised term. It's either hosted locally, i. e. on machine running the browser or not. A datacenter or cloud are remote machines also by the same well established definition.

              • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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                3 months ago

                If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter”

                Then that would also be an oxymoron.

                Local is the opposite of remote. This is a remote server. Remote servers are not local. This is not a matter of interpretation.

                • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  3 months ago

                  It is, actually. It is local to them, it is remote to you. They are differentiating from a remote server in someone else’s datacenter. It is not that confusing.

                  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    3 months ago

                    This is a FAQ for end users, about a feature in software running on end users' computers.

                    It is absolutely doublespeak to call it "local". Are we supposed to invent an entirely new term now to distinguish between remote and local? Please do not accept this usage. It will make meaningful communication much harder.

                    Edit: I mean seriously, by this token OpenAI, Google, Facebook, etc. could call their servers "locally hosted". It is an utterly meaningless term if you accept this usage.

      • smpl@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 months ago

        lol, I think we're giving too little credit to the marketing people in tech. I want to read their blogs!

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    AI you can trust

    Lost me there

    Easily summarize emails

    Haha "Give us access to all your emails for data and corporate espionage we pwomise nothing bad will be done with it!"

  • redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    https://orbitbymozilla.com/terms

    4. Content

    A. Content You Share

    By using the Services, you represent that you will only share material (including Inputs) that you own and/or have the legal right to share and sublicense to others, including without limitation, content and data contained in any web-page shared through the Services to generate Outputs. When you submit your own content through the Services, you continue to own the rights to that content. You grant Mozilla a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, sub-license, prepare derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display the Inputs for the purpose of operating the Services.

  • sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    why are they promoting web-based mail when their email solution is thunderbird?

    • slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Thunderbird is more a community project that's outside of Mozilla's jurisdiction at this point

      • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        Thunderbird is built by a for-profit subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, it just isn’t the Mozilla Corporation.

        • slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird Community.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird

          No. It's not.

          Edit: sort of is, under a subsidiary called MZLA but still seems more independent from mozilla and their shenanigans (I hope)

          • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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            3 months ago

            What’s the sentence before that one?

            Here, read the latest news: https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-moves-to-monetize-thunderbird-transfers-project-to-new-subsidiary/

            Never wondered why Thunderbird donations aren’t tax deductible?

            • slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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              3 months ago

              OK... Now what actionable thing can I do with this info? Use outlook? What good would that do?

              I want firefox to exist to create a good browser and thunderbird to exist for a good email client. Is that too much to ask?

              • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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                3 months ago

                I don’t think you need to do anything different. Sometimes when I learn new things I say “oh, interesting.”

                • slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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                  3 months ago

                  Fair nuff. Sometimes it's just overwhelming getting information of something I can't do anything by. Like oh great another thing that's going wrong rn... Woo hoo