I've been trying to grasp the mind of a typical swing state voter post-debate. I personally thought the whole thing was a shitshow (who was weeping over hosting the Taliban at Camp David for?), but the overwhelming consensus in lib circles was that Harris trounced Trump hard and is going to crush him in November.

As for Trump himself, he seems even less coherent than he was in 2020 and JD Vance is a legitimate nonentity, so I have no idea what's there to excite anyone outside the die hard Trump faithful, but I also have zero sense of where republican enthusiasm is sitting. The more exposure I get from the immigrants-eating-pets discourse, which is all people seem to have taken away from the debate, the more I'm convinced that the country has just completely lost even the pretense of seriousness.