The Anti-Corruption Foundation, which criticizes Putin and is reputed to be the best independent pollster in Russia, just did a poll in Germany & France. It asked: who's responsible for starting the Ukraine war?
Here's Germany's result:
Here are the polling numbers from France:
It appears that both in Germany and France, more people believe that the US is responsible for starting the war in Ukraine than believe that Putin is responsible.
Leonid Volkov of the Anti-Corruption Foundation claims that these numbers show how effective Putin's propaganda is in Germany & France.
This is a laughable explanation of the numbers given that populations of Germany and France are exposed to US propaganda to a far greater degree than they are exposed to Russian propaganda. In fact, much of Russian media is even banned in EU at this point.
One can only imagine what these numbers would look like if the populations of Germany and France were not being bombarded with US government propaganda about the origins of the Ukraine war.
I feel like people vastly overestimate the scale of russian influence over the internet. I can't wait until the CIA and FBI start blaming all of the shit they do on the russians.
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for some reason my parents got really strange when I brought this up
do people actually believe the highway of death was caused by russia
hey wait a minute-
It's clearly nowhere close to US influence, and it's interesting that people seem to be far less worried about that.
Because USA good. USA make entertainment that me like. I want to move to LA like on Netflix show. So USA good and Russia evil because USA show tell me so.
Your joke is actually spot on. I can’t count the number of people I spoke to who thinks that anyone can afford to rent a big apartment in Manhattan like in Friends or brand new 2023 cars easily affordable by anyone etc.
They don’t understand that most do not live that way and especially if you arrive as an immigrant. American entertainment media very rarely portrays the real struggles of working people. So when that is all someone sees of Americans, they become detached from the actual reality and think it’s just so easy for anyone.
That was the point of Russiagate. The picture of Russia as weak and pitiful failed state was already ingrained since 90's, but since you can hardly fearmonger your population with a weak and pitiful failed state, a new narration was added. So now it is a weak and pitiful failed state with inhuman propganda and corrupting power (sounds kida like... projection? or soon will be). The enemy must be at the same time weak and strong, as per usual fascism.