Apparently there's a plot point that involves Gaia creating the Ratkin to eradicate humanity's "surplus population" through disease, which has some very uncomfortable implications, especially in the light of the gross indifference to human life that the ruling class has exhibited in the wake of Covid-19.

I realize this is hinged on a lot of assumptions (that this information is accurate in-universe and that Gaia, as the personification of the Earth, serves as a mouthpiece for the creators' environmentalist views), which is why I'm asking.

  • Runcible [none/use name]
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    I am under the impression that various periods of WW had some strong influence by writers who were problematic - I think they had some neo nazis there but I can't remember why I believe this so I want to treat it lightly.

    The main complaint I recall from WtA is that it devolved into a "fuzzy superheroes" feel because the antagonists were all just actual manifestations of literal evil, and it definitely has the most problematic content of the three core games if you look at the black horse stuff (don't). I never got a chance to play the nWoD version (forsaken, I think?) but it looked much better to me, so maybe check it out?

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      One of the people working on Werewolf was a pedophile and was eventually caught + convicted. He used werewolves as a metaphor for "uncontrollable urges," which is present in the game.

      That's probably where you got nazi vibes.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      the black horse stuff

      I'm not familiar with this and am morbidly curious.

    • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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      Forsaken is great, but I never played Apocalypse to compare them together. I came in during nWoD, but Forsaken 2nd edition is one of my favorite game designs and settings of any rpg.