This post is not an endorsement of incremental change but to serve as a visual guide on how far away certain individuals are from embracing the final conclusion of veganism.

Definitions:

  1. Cannibal: a human being or an animal that eats their own kind

  2. Carnivore: an animal that feeds primarily or exclusively on flesh

  3. Meat Eater: The standard diet that includes flesh

  4. Flexitarian: One whose diet includes a low amount of flesh

  5. Pollotarian: One whose diet includes fowl but no other flesh

  6. Pescatarian: One whose diet includes fish but no other flesh

  7. Entotarian: One whose diet includes insects but no other flesh

  8. Ostretarian: One whose diet includes oyster but no other flesh

  9. Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian: a vegetarian whose diet includes dairy products, eggs, vegetables, fruits, grains, and nuts

  10. Ovo-Vegetarian: a vegetarian whose diet includes eggs, vegetables, fruits, grains, and nuts

  11. Lacto-Vegetarian: a vegetarian whose diet includes dairy products, vegetables, fruits, grains, and nuts

  12. Plant-Based: a strict vegetarian who consumes no food that comes from animals for health or environmental reasons

  13. Vegan: a strict vegetarian who consumes no food that comes from animals for ethical reasons

  • smb@lemmy.ml
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    26 days ago

    sort of missing in the list:

    • fruitarianism
    • raw food eaters
    • instinct diet

    questions: why are reasons in the list only for 12. and 13. ? why is ethical reasons only for 13. but not for 12.? why is health or environmental reasons only for 12. but not for 13.?

    i have met at least five peoples who's reasons did not match those named in 12 and 13, why so sure to know the reasons in the first place? at the very least someone could just 'try' veganism for "trying" but "trying" is not named as a reason in the list while its a very valid reason and could come alone without any other reason needed.

    other reasons might be possible for 12 and 13:

    • religion
    • spirituality
    • taste
    • bad taste
    • price
    • dislike of industry production of all dead animal products
    • dislike industry production in general
    • dislike of food that tends to decay quicker and then beeing way worse than plants
    • dislike of food that quickly attract flies
    • dislike of meat eaters maybe for their stupid and wrong argumentation bases
    • eating only what parents put on the table / say is good
    • eating something to show kids what is (assumed to be) good for health
    • eating the opposite of what parents say is good.

    conclusion: debunking of this specific vegantheory seemed way too easy.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      25 days ago

      Religion and spirituality are ethical reasons. Taste, bad taste, and price are not reasons why anyone would actually go vegan - veganism would call for turning down a free meal regardless of how well prepared it might be. "Dislike" of industrial production of animal products or in general, would obviously be rooted in ethical, health, or environmental concerns. If you only avoid meat and animal products on the basis that it decays more quickly or attracts flies, then you should have no objection to eating meat that is fresh, unless you are concerned about health risks. If you are vegan because you want to set an example to kids on how to eat healthy, then you are doing it for health reasons. If you are vegan because your parents tell you that veganism is good and you believe them, or because your parents tell you that it is bad and you reject that, then those are both ethical beliefs. If you are vegan out of spite towards meat eaters for making bad arguments, then it stands to reason that you think vegans make a better case.

      So all of your arguments are invalid. Which you would already understand if you had read even the first line of Wikipedia about veganism:

      Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products—particularly in diet—and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals.

      But thank you so much for coming here to grace us with your very educated and informed perspective.

    • Well @vegantheoryclub.org
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      26 days ago

      Fruitarianism: either falls into plant-based or vegan category.

      Raw food Eater: They may fall into any one of the categories.

      Instinct diet: I never heard of this diet.

      There are too many diets that exist under the sun to be worth talking about.

      Also the reasons listed for diets 12 and 13 are there to mark the important distinction that needs to be made. If I listed every possible reason for why people may go for one diet it would make the post too long.

      The diets you listed are not important for the purpose of this chart. As your comment didn’t debunk the chart as you’re asking for more details. It took me a while to make this post, show some respect.

  • Hux@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    I had to google ostretarian, because I had never heard of that one before.

    I was surprised that searching for “ostretarian” was one of the few google searches I’ve ever done in which only a single hit came up:

    https://lemmy.world/post/19700125

    Or two, if you allow google to “expand” the results:

    https://old.lemmy.pt/post/6637900

    It seems like references come from this article by The Guardian last month:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/12/ill-have-them-with-hot-sauce-should-vegans-eat-oysters

    In which it refers to bivalve veganism.

    Searching for “bivalve veganism” yields an article from a couple of years ago in which the practice is referred to as “bivalve veganism” or “ostroveganism”

    https://www.vegetariantimes.com/news/can-vegans-eat-oysters/

    Searching for “Ostrovegan” yields lots of varied results—making me think this chart just has a typo on a word which was just unfamiliar to me.

    I spent some time, but at least I learned something new.