Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Edit 2: i might test first If I ever boot into my windows disk to see if I need it anymore
When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.
i am trying to give up roblox preparing for 4 months to a year why a long time you might ask bcs am currently waiting for the 6 month trial to end.
LoL is addicting & sucks your soul out; Roblox does this while making child labor on their platform on how the games are built & monetized inside their platform. It is pretty gross.
And the 6 months is for affinity but yeah ruben sim explains what's wrong with roblox pretty well
The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions
Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.
i already use linux as a dualbooted os, Ngl i agree but i got affinity i need to wait for it to expire (it was 6 mounths)
I use Photopea on the browser when I need something that the Gimp can't do.
Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you'll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not. I personally don't see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you're paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.
I already have a second physical disk but windows 11 only being supported and maybe ltsc in October 2025 it might be more important for linux, I can agree not everyone can use it but paired with a lightweight wm it can be good.
I already have a second physical disk but windows 11 only being supported
The drive doesn't work under Linux?
I think you didn't understand me. I said that if you want to have both Linux and Windows on one computer without a WM, install the two operation systems on different physical drives because having them on one drive may result in Windows fully deleting your Linux system and data.
I thought you said smth about wm being too heavy but I use kde it's much easier somtimes to have some kind of gui separate disks are much better lol
You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.
Don’t wait, prepare!
Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.
A good project between now and then is to investigate the iot sku. It has everything “unnecessary” cut out because it’s intended to be installed on refrigerators and has a much longer support window (2032?) for the same reason.
Support should be in quotation marks. Yes it has security support but applications will stop supporting all windows 10 SKUs long before that
Maybe industry specific stuff like photoshop or something.
Web browsers and normal stuff will keep on trucking as long as the os has a valid root certificate.
The alternative route I took is maintaining a mac computer for when I need to “be normal”.
Maybe not as expensive as you think. The classic getting into the mac game choice is the 2012 mbp 12”, which can run a supported macos with opencore legacy patcher and costs <$200 with 16gb ram and an ssd.
The next best starter option is probably to make the big long leap to a first gen m1 air which can be had for ~$400 if you keep your eyes open.
Those are both expensive to me lol, but not the multiple thousands for a new computer.
If you go the cheap m1 route, get the most ram you can find in it. The m series have ram built into the chip, so you can’t upgrade it later.
Also if the previous owner says it’s getting slow then nuke the ssd with the dd command after you have confirmed ownership is transferred. You’ll have a longer process to reinstall the os from first principles but it’ll fix slowness from the ssds old blocks having never been rewritten.
Oh this is entirely different than soldering the ram to the motherboard (which is really common on pc laptops now too, it’s harder to find one with sockets now than it’s ever been!).
The ram is inside the cpu. The processor isn’t “just” a cpu (although you can’t call even the old pentium “just” a cpu, they do so much nowadays!), it’s got the video card, bus controllers, ram and all kinds of other stuff built into that one IC!
It’s a SoC, System on a Chip, just like the processors that run phones and tablets and stuff.
I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.
Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.
My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.
oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall
I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.
As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).
if i ever considered gpu passthrough should i get a gt 710 alongside gtx 1650
Something like that. In my setup, I passthrough my RX 580 (my nicer card) and have my RX 550 (a dirt cheap one I got for ~$85 on sale) stay connected to the host.
If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.
Yeah I can spin up some ltsc vm without gpu acceleration sadly I don't want win11 no thanks 🤮
You'll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won't need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it's still there, always has been.
Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it's still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros
Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it's my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn't have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.
It's a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It's time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.
It's a Canon. If I just sit down for a bit with it I'm sure I can get it working, but sometimes you just want it to work right now.
oh brother people say it works and hp there is a software for it and idk about canon but there is prob no linux support like their cameras.
Cups takes some playing with to get right but once you have it setup and saved, the thing should work whenever
I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can't (one of the main things I use a computer for won't work on Linux) so I'll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don't see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!
I have no idea what LTSC is but I shall have a bit of a search around after work to see if it is something I can benefit from. Thank you :)
Cool, thank you. I may try a Linux distro again soon and try to get Traktor DJ working but the last time I tried (admittedly quite a few years ago) the audio latency was far too high for DJing with so I had to return to windows.
I am aware of mixxx as a DJ software and I periodically try it out to see how it is advancing (my last try being a few months ago) but it is just not there yet for me. Hopefully one day!
i never used or heard of Traktor DJ but i was getting affinity working on wine (compile the custom wine version) it was way too buggy and no opencl hardware acceleration support.
I chose the dual boot option when I decided to switch a year ago, and I found myself rarely using Windows eventhough it is installed on my laptop. I might have only boot it up 3-4 times since the switch, for GFN not working properly with ALT when running through browser. The dual boot just make my disk partition needlessly complicated, and I'm going to reinstall it yet again, without Windows.
I feel you. I installed dual boot and basically just never bothered to boot Windows again because the stuff I need works.
I find my self only using windows for roblox and use affinity for 6 months till March 2025 (and roblox is easy to quit it has some issues with mods and stuff)
Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn't remove the possibility altogether.
I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)
dual boot, you never know when will you be forced to use windows again
- and for those who suggest VM, there are situations where its a hassle to make thing work or its impossible all together ( updating bios is one of those )
not necessarily, for example some laptop oems do not use the standard format and you cant just extract them from the exe so you have to use windows
