• TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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    29 days ago

    Furthermore if you're not the right kind of Jew in Israel (Orthodox) you can't get married. Tons of people fly to Cyprus and then get married

    • HarryLime [any]
      hexagon
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      29 days ago

      Furthermore if you're not the right kind of Jew in Israel (Orthodox) you can't get married.

      Wait what?

    • bigbrowncommie69 [any]
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      29 days ago

      I thought the Orthodox Jews were anti-zionist. A ton of them in the US and elsewhere speak out against Israel.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        29 days ago

        There are different sects of orthodoxy

        Not to mention it's not like they have a Pope telling them what to think anyway

        Not that it would make them think different anyway, just like with the Pope

        • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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          29 days ago

          One could argue that some of the dynastic Chasidic sects do kinda have someone telling them what to think in the form of their Rebbes.

      • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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        29 days ago

        Not all of them, and there's a lot of different subtypes of Orthodox. My comment is overly simplified but basically not even all types of Orthodox Jews can have a legal Israeli marriage, it's at the discretion of the rabbinical court.

        I also actually didn't know this until now, but looks like other marriages are recognized as long as it's an approved religion, of which Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, & Renewal Jews are not.

        Israel recognizes only marriages under the faiths of Jewish, Muslim, and Druze communities, and ten specified denominations of Christianity.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Israel

        They can all emigrate to Israel, but are not recognized as religiously Jewish. Most Jews in the US are Reform, the second largest group are various types of Orthodox. The chunk of US Jews that are unaffiliated are even larger than the US Orthodox population.

        This leads to an odd situation where a huge chunk of Jews that emigrate to Israel are not actually considered religiously Jewish for the purposes of burial or marriage.

        There are sects of Orthodox Jews in Israel (mostly Haredi, which is itself also a large umbrella with many subtypes) that are anti-zionist on religious grounds.