• Venat [he/him, any]
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    7 hours ago

    I know this is a dredge/dunk, but I hope this presents a hope that Israelis and their children would become malleable, in the event of the collapse of the state of Israel, to the establishment of a binational unitary state of Palestine. Most people are "go along to get along" and after their exhaustion of war and sanction - hopefully soon - and the Israelis who chose not to leave or could not leave will just learn to adapt, with growing pains, to the reality that does not privilege them.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      4 hours ago

      this presents a hope that Israelis and their children would become malleable, in the event of the collapse of the state of Israel, to the establishment of a binational unitary state of Palestine

      Is that what happened during Reconstruction?

      • RomCom1989 [he/him, any]
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        4 hours ago

        No, because the analogy to that would be a slave revolt winning against the south

        What happened historically can be likened to either Netanyahu getting couped by liberal Zionists or Jordan annexing all of Occupied Palestine but remaining a Hashemite comprador nation

        • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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          4 hours ago

          the analogy to that would be a slave revolt winning against the south

          If Israel collapsed, my money would be on a neighboring US ally's military - Egypt, Jordan, Turkyie, or SA - taking over.

          Not a slave revolution, but a replacement of Ashkanazi/Sephardic Israeli nationalists with a neoliberal-ish protectorate, while locals continue to feud in the Balkin States model.

          What happened historically can be likened to either Netanyahu getting couped by liberal Zionists or Jordan annexing all of Occupied Palestine but remaining a Hashemite comprador nation

          I don't think there's anything seriously resembling Liberal Zionism anymore. But that other one seems possible.