It's exceedingly effective.

I was talking politics with someone earlier today, on the topic of the new BRICS payment system, and the conversation went something like this:

Me: Countries should be able to trade in their own currencies, and no one country (USA or otherwise) should be able to declare unilateral sanctions and cause sabotage just because they want to.

Lib: Shouldn't USA be able to sanction Russia for its invasion of Ukraine?

Me: I don't think any country should be able to declare unilateral sanctions. On the other hand, if the global community wants to decide on sanctions together, that's another story. However, maybe the USA themselves should be sanctioned for their involvement in the 2014/2015 coup in Ukraine that started this whole mess.

Lib: Were those democratic protesters not legitimate?

Me: It was a far right, violet coup that overthrew a democratically elected government [Provides sourced examples of far-right violence during the coup, evidence it was a coup, and how it was clearly in the interests of Western governments]

Lib: [Provides Wikipedia links of the "Democratic mass movements in Ukraine"]

Me: Yes that is a textbook example of a CIA backed colour revolution.

Lib: That is Russian disinformation.

Why exactly does "disinformation" always have to come from "the other, evil foreign governments"? Why the fuck does Russia care what I think? Wouldn't it make a lot more fucking sense that our own government is trying to manipulate our understanding of the world?

I don't think I have ever once heard a lib use the term "American disinformation" or "misinformation from our own government" - it's always the evil Russians or Chinese. Of course reactionaries and chuds always cry foul at what the government says but it's only about dumb bullshit like vaccines and bike lanes.

The second any information runs contrary to the Libs heavily propagandised worldview it can immediately be dismissed as "foreign propaganda" - no matter how thoroughly sourced or researched or documented. It's just an immediate off switch for both the conversation and their brain. And, conveniently, they have handy NATOpedia articles to counter with.

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  • newacctidk [none/use name]
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    23 days ago

    I was just reading an opinion piece on Telesur about russophobia and how the west uses Russia as the ultimate thought-terminating-cliche

    In an interesting article called “Russophobia: the other war” the analyst Elson Concepción Pérez points out that “The United States, NATO and the fascists in Ukraine have made Russophobia a kind of booklet in which each of the elements appear, duly ordered, to create a scenario of hatred towards Moscow, its authorities, its people and even its own history. The objective that is pursued is to reverse, and at the same time justify, the true root of the current war situation, placing NATO troops and its war resources very close to Russian territory, wanting to make people believe that it is the Russian government that is acting against the neighboring nation. The same purpose is had by those who supply multimillion-dollar figures of all kinds of weapons to Kiev, to act against the Russian military, or by those who impose economic, commercial and other sanctions on the country, in order to weaken it and make it surrender" end quote

    A desire to be relevant to NATO and to everything that smells of Washington, which will cost them dearly in terms of sovereignty. The cultural triumph of the United States and its closest allies who are leading the European flock to the abyss is total. In this panorama it is also evident that the world of the left has lost its way, is missing the direction of development and even the valuable action of criticism, where support for the Kiev regime is the majority, without making a minimum analysis of how the current state of things came about.

    And, if we take the process of extermination against the Palestinian people, this left has been incapable of showing a moral and correct path that would end, for example, with the financial and military support for the national-Zionist regime. The European Union is simply a sounding board for what Washington says and orders regarding Ukraine and Israel. It is shameful to note, for example, that Germany is today the second country that provides the most weapons to the Israeli entity to carry out the genocide of the Palestinian people. A Germany co-opted by Zionism and by Russophobic positions that are deplorable.

    https://www.telesurtv.net/blogs/europa-el-nuevo-patio-trasero-de-washington/

    Liberals are completely delusional, they exist so deeply entrenched in their fantasy of history and material reality that any opposition must literally come from nefarious lies. No counter narratives, no other circumstances even leading someone to an opinion they consider wrong, nope just plain disinfo by the evil slavs

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      23 days ago

      Once is Russian happenstance, twice is Russian coincidence, three times is a Russichinaranorea conspiracy

      • newacctidk [none/use name]
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        23 days ago

        They really do just continue old antisemitic tropes. They are just too dumb to realize who guys like Solzhenitsyn meant when they said Russia controls everything