• Noughmad@programming.dev
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    11 months ago

    Except Trump publicly spoke both about leaving NATO and about not responding to a NATO member under attack (the example he used was Montenegro).

    Biden did neither of these things.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Trump moved Amerikan troops from Germany to Poland, that is: closer to the Russian border and deliberately broke nuclear disarmament treaties with Russia, but that's easy to miss when you base political analysis on words instead of actions. It was entirely the point of the Trump administration to performatively signal support of Putin's reactionary chauvinism to pander to the GOP base while pursuing the same aggressive expansionism you'd expect from any US government. When you view US politics through that movie-brained, main character focussed lens instead of looking at actual policy, the same ruse also works on Democrats, they'll just walk away from it with a different moral judgement, which is the intended outcome. You can argue between parties over foreign policy without ever actually changing that murderous foreign policy.

      Trump is doing what we have seen under Bush jr. already, only in a more aggressive tone: Jingoistically shitting on US allies to assert dominance, but leaving these alliances in place. Then after the next electoralist circus, there's a Democrat in charge who tells the same allies that they are now valued again. European liberals can pretend that the good Amerika has won and the nightmarish clowns that have been in charge for the last 4 or 8 years are finally banished and everything's right again and we can continue living under Amerikan hegemony without having to worry about our hegemon's continued, steady descend into mask-off fascism.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      This is how conspiracy theory logic works though. You take something that is technically true in a vacuum and then use it to "prove" something completely unrelated.

      Trump did publicly speak about those things. That's all he did though. He didn't begin the process of withdrawing from NATO, or actively refuse a call for aid from a NATO member. He just vomited words out of his mouth, because...that's like 90% of what he does, he just spouts whatever is on his mind, then forgets all about it a week later.

      Saying "Trump said a thing." ≠ "Trump is therefore a Putin Puppet."

      There is nothing connecting these two things. There are plenty of reasons to hate Trump without resorting to conspiracies about him. Hate him for the things he actually does, not stuff that is made up about him.