• Noughmad@programming.dev
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    11 months ago

    USA and Russia are waging a proxy war

    It's not a proxy war for Russia, lol.

    You should be happy because if Ukraine did not fight back, if it did not receive western supplies, the war would be fought in your country, and in mine. And trust me, you do not want Russians in your country (but if you're just two countries away and older than 12, you know that already).

    these people aren't allies and have never been.

    Ah, yes, billionaire oligarhs are totally not allies. No, they each only have the best interests of their working people at heart. And these two specially, their chat without transistors was just about football, Trump getting billions in loans from Russian state banks in just good business, and that Manafort guy was just a coincidence.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      if Ukraine did not fight back, if it did not receive western supplies, the war would be fought in your country, and in mine

      How? The Russian sphere of influence has been shrinking for 30 years with next to no pushback until Crimea, they can barely occupy their direct neighbors, they took a decade to beat down the insurgency in fucking Chechnya and you're assuming they'd march on Berlin if we wouldn't gift cluster bombs to neonazis? Even during the Cold War, when the Red Army was at the peak of its power, such widespread invasion scenarios by default included strategic nuclear bombing of half of Western Europe. Are you in the "Putin is completely insane and wants to destroy the world" camp or how else do you explain your scenario?

      BTW, i'm glad Soviet (not Russian) troops actually where in my country once, but that may be because i don't prefer the Nazis over the USSR.