I've had a lot of discussions with people about veganism. To be honest I've had the most success talking about health and well being and then segue into Animal rights and how they are treated. While I think "vegans for health" aren't really vegan I do think they're one of the best groups to target with animal rights messaging because they should have the meat goggles off. This is why I am grateful for the vcj style memes because I was able to process them with much less defensive walls up.

How to communicate health and well being is hard enough though and I think it works best when you or someone you love is already suffering from metabolic diseases which really sucks. That said there is so much misinformation and wishful thinking in this space it is hard to know how to get through to someone without going into the realm of bullshit. This is why I am really thankful for people like Dr. Greger and Dr. Bernard.

In terms of a specific, recently I was talking to someone about veganism who is mostly there but doesn't get the full breadth of the philosophy I think it over all went well and for once I wasn't too active which helped. I think being patient and persistent matters more than anything I can specifically at the time.