If it's any consolation, Kamala finally acknowledged what's going on in Gaza and dropped (mostly) reduced the israel defending itself framing at her rally in MI yesterday to state in no uncertain terms that she would put an end to palestinian suffering. Still too little too late for me to take her very seriously but the pressure appears to be working even with the libs doing everything they can to suppress it.
Oh absolutely, only time will tell if she takes actual action and I have all the doubts in the world especially as long as Biden is in charge. This should have come months sooner, not two days before the election.
All that said, it's a notable change in rhetoric and it's a positive one which would have never happened if they weren't losing votes over it, if Trump weren't also trying to outflank her with anti-war/pro-arab rhetoric in Michigan. I'm choosing to lean optimistic that my liberal friends and family who vote for her are just stupid and ideologically self-defeating, not evil, and there's enough of us against the genocide that it's a real threat to their power.
well, I skipped to 39:00 and made it to about 41:00.
that's the same shit everyone has been saying for decades. idk what else to say about it. it's surprising to me that you hear anything but empty platitudes in those two minutes.
what circumstances do you expect to be changed by her election? she's already in the White House, democrats are at the helm of this genocide, and they say if we vote for them even harder this time, they pinky promise to work really hard to figure something out – but why is that? what will change once they win again? why do you believe them?
All I'm saying is it's a positive change from what she's been saying. Up to now she hasn't even acknowledged the Palestinian side of it. I'm not for her and I'm not voting for her, I'm just slightly less disgusted by her. She was perfectly content before to tell arab voters to go fuck themselves and completely avoid the subject.
The reason I shared the video itself was to not overstate the change here.
If it's any consolation, Kamala finally acknowledged what's going on in Gaza and
dropped (mostly)reduced the israel defending itself framing at her rally in MI yesterday to state in no uncertain terms that she would put an end to palestinian suffering. Still too little too late for me to take her very seriously but the pressure appears to be working even with the libs doing everything they can to suppress it.deleted by creator
Oh absolutely, only time will tell if she takes actual action and I have all the doubts in the world especially as long as Biden is in charge. This should have come months sooner, not two days before the election.
All that said, it's a notable change in rhetoric and it's a positive one which would have never happened if they weren't losing votes over it, if Trump weren't also trying to outflank her with anti-war/pro-arab rhetoric in Michigan. I'm choosing to lean optimistic that my liberal friends and family who vote for her are just stupid and ideologically self-defeating, not evil, and there's enough of us against the genocide that it's a real threat to their power.
to be fair, Netanyahu also wants to end Palestinian suffering (permanently!) – it is the manner and speed with which it is ended that is at issue
did she describe the manner and speed with which she would end their suffering?
She spoke of a diplomatic solution but yeah by all means, skip to 39 minutes in and judge for yourself.
There have been numerous opportunities for a diplomatic solution and the entity has vaporized all the negotiators.
well, I skipped to 39:00 and made it to about 41:00.
that's the same shit everyone has been saying for decades. idk what else to say about it. it's surprising to me that you hear anything but empty platitudes in those two minutes.
what circumstances do you expect to be changed by her election? she's already in the White House, democrats are at the helm of this genocide, and they say if we vote for them even harder this time, they pinky promise to work really hard to figure something out – but why is that? what will change once they win again? why do you believe them?
All I'm saying is it's a positive change from what she's been saying. Up to now she hasn't even acknowledged the Palestinian side of it. I'm not for her and I'm not voting for her, I'm just slightly less disgusted by her. She was perfectly content before to tell arab voters to go fuck themselves and completely avoid the subject.
The reason I shared the video itself was to not overstate the change here.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: