• Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

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    He's right. In a declining capitalist state like the current US, workers want change. In the absence of a genuine working class party that correctly blames capitalism and the capitalist class for a revolution, you get a "radical" capitalist-funded party that at least points the blame at someone — marginalized people.

    The dems only offer to preserve the status quo, and no one fucking wants the status quo.

    Get organized. Liberal democracies in the imperial core historically always slide to fascism.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      10 days ago

      While it's good to hear him say it now, I'm very annoyed that he didn't attempt to hold Dem feet to the fire while they were in an election, and could have potentially extracted concessions. AFAIK he's also still not calling the Palestinian genocide a genocide.

      This is not to take away from the message that the democratic party must be destroyed and replaced with a working class (IE: Communist) party, which is correct, but merely to point out that Bernie himself cannot be trusted to lead it.

        • ...m...@ttrpg.network
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          ...this is the crux of it: bernie's time was eight years ago, and even though i absolutely respect his lucid resolve, the movement needs fresh figureheads to sustain its momentum...

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    • ...m...@ttrpg.network
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      10 days ago

      ...the progressive movement held our collective noses and reacted to an existential crisis for the preservation of american democracy in the face of imminent fascism, and the coalition succeeded at that goal for a short while, but only just...

  • selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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    10 days ago

    He should found a new party based on his moral and ethical values. First, take over Vermont government, after that let's see. He's the only politician I know whou could pull this one in the American scene. He's already independent and representing much more than Vermont.

      • selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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        10 days ago

        If one of those aligns with his political views, maybe. That doesn't mean he will be allowed to steer that particular political party; and I think that's why.

  • NuraShiny [any]
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    9 days ago

    Yes. in 2016. Not this year, he took too many terrible bargains.

    And of course the dems would rather get dissolved in acid then actually run him. They would have ran the ghost of Richard Nixon over him.

  • ApexHunter@lemmy.ml
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    10 days ago

    If this is how he felt the last year, he's just as culpable as all of the other fucks who stayed home and didn't vote. Fuck him and his Monday morning quarterbacking.

    • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
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      10 days ago

      Bernie is a bastard, but I think it's backwards thinking to blame voters rather than candidates. In a nominal democracy, it's the job of the candidates to appeal to people to get votes. If there is any merit to this idea, we must conclude that the failure was the Harris campaign for not generating the confidence needed to vote for her -- which is a very expected outcome when you're running as reactionary a campaign as she did, calling the wall a "good idea" and so on.

  • Floon@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    Bernie couldn't win when it was just Democrats deciding amongst themselves.

    The Democrats ran Bernie before, during a time that was much more favorable for a progressive candidate. Only then, his name was George McGovern and he got beat like a rented mule.

    Progressives need to learn how few people in this country are willing to consider the notion of the possibility of thinking about letting their daughters date a progressive, much less elect one President. It's not enough to be right, if you're fucking stupid about the citizens of this country.

    • forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml
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      9 days ago

      Something I've realized about the post mortem takes is that peoples opinions on what went wrong is often just the laundry list of things they wanted and didn't get.

      So the candidate wasn't perfect enough for them and if candidate just did all that well enough for me then it would have been a victory. Easy peasy. Too bad they aren't the entire electorate.

      Seems only natural in an era of heightened partisanship. It's not even left-right but divisions among factions within. Why is everyone ignoring the strong anti-communist sentiment among Latino populations. If Harris lost that by surprisingly large margins campaigning more center than anything then a proper left candidate would have even worse numbers.