The lengths they go to avoid talking about economics.
The lengths they go to, to avoid talking about virtually everything, tbh. This is western chauvinism on Socrates internet quote brain. They desperately want to be what they think is the cool thinker who sums everything about society up into a neat little bundle, while doing zero investigation. This basically:
You can't solve a problem? Well, get down and investigate the present facts and its past history! When you have investigated the problem thoroughly, you will know how to solve it. Conclusions invariably come after investigation, and not before. Only a blockhead cudgels his brains on his own, or together with a group, to "find solution" or "evolve an idea" without making any investigation. It must be stressed that this cannot possibly lead to any effective solution or any good idea. In other words, he is bound to arrive at a wrong solution and a wrong idea.
Side note: Gonna potentially humiliate myself to make a point, but making the truth known through real life examples is more important for stuff like this than whether people think I'm cool. In the meaning of incel that is more literal (involuntary celibate), I am that. I don't have any of the fucked up "hating women/resenting them, etc." because of it. Nor have I ever had inclinations in that direction, even before I considered myself anti-imperialist and communist. In my mind, the one has little to do with the other. The only real crossover is on stuff like recognizing how capitalism has made it harder to have human connection and by extension, that can apply to romantic connection too; or how patriarchy creates all kinds of fucked up dynamics and predatory behavior on the part of men, which on top of the pure hurt done, has consequences for how safe women realistically can be in approaching a thing like dating and how much they're going to develop reasonable layers of wariness they might not otherwise have. But obviously there are people who are still doing it alright regardless, so some of it is my specific circumstances and how I live my own life, not a universal principle of capitalism or a patriarchal system that you can't get laid.
The idea of sticking it to women because a famous woman says how important this election is to them, is so foreign to me, I don't even know where to begin. I spent the last year trying to find a balance between spreading documented info of a genocide happening, and not hairshirt-style pointlessly taking on secondhand trauma to feel better as a person, with no real satisfactory answer as to how to handle such an unprecedented thing as a genocide happening and being proliferated across high speed internet in real-time with vivid video of it occurring, while dealing with people denying that information in real-time, downplaying it, or even saying it's deserved. And that on top of trying to balance it with my own life circumstances and figure out how to find a point in all the shlocky individualist thinking I encounter about life, while people are being mass murdered and I'm being told I should focus on me or whatever. I feel like I'm living in a different universe from a person like this. I understand people have their information bubbles, but my god, it's stark.
I say all this not to make it about me (it's actually kind of uncomfortable for me to get into this much detail about myself in a place like this), but to make a point about the gap and use myself as an example of someone real, rather than just being hypothetical. Look to what people are actually doing and saying. Ask them if necessary. Then you can begin to build a notion of patterns.
The lengths they go to, to avoid talking about virtually everything, tbh. This is western chauvinism on Socrates internet quote brain. They desperately want to be what they think is the cool thinker who sums everything about society up into a neat little bundle, while doing zero investigation. This basically:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-6/mswv6_11.htm
Side note: Gonna potentially humiliate myself to make a point, but making the truth known through real life examples is more important for stuff like this than whether people think I'm cool. In the meaning of incel that is more literal (involuntary celibate), I am that. I don't have any of the fucked up "hating women/resenting them, etc." because of it. Nor have I ever had inclinations in that direction, even before I considered myself anti-imperialist and communist. In my mind, the one has little to do with the other. The only real crossover is on stuff like recognizing how capitalism has made it harder to have human connection and by extension, that can apply to romantic connection too; or how patriarchy creates all kinds of fucked up dynamics and predatory behavior on the part of men, which on top of the pure hurt done, has consequences for how safe women realistically can be in approaching a thing like dating and how much they're going to develop reasonable layers of wariness they might not otherwise have. But obviously there are people who are still doing it alright regardless, so some of it is my specific circumstances and how I live my own life, not a universal principle of capitalism or a patriarchal system that you can't get laid.
The idea of sticking it to women because a famous woman says how important this election is to them, is so foreign to me, I don't even know where to begin. I spent the last year trying to find a balance between spreading documented info of a genocide happening, and not hairshirt-style pointlessly taking on secondhand trauma to feel better as a person, with no real satisfactory answer as to how to handle such an unprecedented thing as a genocide happening and being proliferated across high speed internet in real-time with vivid video of it occurring, while dealing with people denying that information in real-time, downplaying it, or even saying it's deserved. And that on top of trying to balance it with my own life circumstances and figure out how to find a point in all the shlocky individualist thinking I encounter about life, while people are being mass murdered and I'm being told I should focus on me or whatever. I feel like I'm living in a different universe from a person like this. I understand people have their information bubbles, but my god, it's stark.
I say all this not to make it about me (it's actually kind of uncomfortable for me to get into this much detail about myself in a place like this), but to make a point about the gap and use myself as an example of someone real, rather than just being hypothetical. Look to what people are actually doing and saying. Ask them if necessary. Then you can begin to build a notion of patterns.