American History X is probably not the best de-Nazifying material but I do agree that in a perfect world, forcibly reeducating them is a more ideal solution, and in certain situations maiming or even just punching can work as a short-term solution.
It's not so much about hate as it is about defending ourselves and protecting the people who their continued existence is a constant threat towards. Though the hate doesn't hurt.
Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting for a perfect solution. In the meantime, Bash The Fash
Nazis go beyond hate. That's an absolutely vile position to hold, and trying to win them over with empathy isn't how you do it, because they are past empathy. Fascism must be combatted thoroughly and completely.
If people are organising and doing direct action in their irl lives, they sure as hell aren't going to be bragging about it online to impress a pearl-clutching lib who disapproves of direct action because "hate perpetuates hate".
Just because you aren't personally doing anything about the threat of fascists and just because you find the American History X message to be poignant and compelling doesn't mean that this applies universally to everyone else in the world. You're just telling on yourself by adopting this attitude, at least to the people who are engaged in activism.
One: get your head out of your arse and maybe, just maybe figure out that your US-centric outlook might be quickly disproved by the fact that my language is a strong indication that I am not a yank.
Two:
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Are you illiterate or do you just dismiss evidence out of hand because you assume everything comes from and is about the US reflexively because you are so US-centric in your outlook?
This is where you should feel ashamed of yourself but I'm not convinced that you actually have the capacity for humility given the fact that you're talking out your arse and you assume that you know enough about The Base and Atomwaffen that you don't need to read the Wikipedia entries on them.
You're suggesting rounding them up for re-education. We suggest that all the time, and yet when we suggest it you call us monsters.
The time for re-education was 10 years ago though. There are far too many fascists now and they are embedded in far too many institutions, the inevitable outcome is already decided and the only pathway out down the line will be violent.
What was your proposed solution to far-right genocidal extremism?
Not to line them all up against a wall and shoot them.
Maybe make them watch American history X or something, fuck do I know but a solution to hate isn't more hate.
We should try to reform them by giving them gainful employment.
To this end, I suggest we put tons of them in major positions of power. You know, like America did after the war.
American History X is probably not the best de-Nazifying material but I do agree that in a perfect world, forcibly reeducating them is a more ideal solution, and in certain situations maiming or even just punching can work as a short-term solution.
It's not so much about hate as it is about defending ourselves and protecting the people who their continued existence is a constant threat towards. Though the hate doesn't hurt.
Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting for a perfect solution. In the meantime, Bash The Fash
Lining up defeated Nazis in the community rec center, rolling out an old CRT TV, and showing them the Green Book lmao.
They'll be begging for the wall in no time.
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That's why I said "in a perfect world," also I thought it was funny
The solution to stopping the Nazi war machine is to get them all to watch a movie.
Do you have access to some type of time teleportation device, where do you see a Nazi war machine 😭
the best time to treat cancer is early, before it metastasizes and becomes inoperable
I had to bring down my dictionary from my shelf and find metastasizes, cool word
Well, at least you're learning something today, despite your best efforts not to.
Nazis go beyond hate. That's an absolutely vile position to hold, and trying to win them over with empathy isn't how you do it, because they are past empathy. Fascism must be combatted thoroughly and completely.
I'm sure you're doing much combat behind the keyboard brother, hoorah
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They'd definitely rat on a Jewish neighbour, if this comment thread is anything to go by.
Hahahaha, this gave me a good belly laugh in the morning. Yes I'm a Nazi!!! Hahahahaha
This is such a fedbait thing to say.
If people are organising and doing direct action in their irl lives, they sure as hell aren't going to be bragging about it online to impress a pearl-clutching lib who disapproves of direct action because "hate perpetuates hate".
Just because you aren't personally doing anything about the threat of fascists and just because you find the American History X message to be poignant and compelling doesn't mean that this applies universally to everyone else in the world. You're just telling on yourself by adopting this attitude, at least to the people who are engaged in activism.
What threat of fascists? xD
Are you so insular in your outlook that you literally don't believe that there are any fascists organising in your own country?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Base_(hate_group)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomwaffen_Division
Again, US problems you're projecting onto the rest of the world. Not everything revolves around your country.
One: get your head out of your arse and maybe, just maybe figure out that your US-centric outlook might be quickly disproved by the fact that my language is a strong indication that I am not a yank.
Two:
Are you illiterate or do you just dismiss evidence out of hand because you assume everything comes from and is about the US reflexively because you are so US-centric in your outlook?
This is where you should feel ashamed of yourself but I'm not convinced that you actually have the capacity for humility given the fact that you're talking out your arse and you assume that you know enough about The Base and Atomwaffen that you don't need to read the Wikipedia entries on them.
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You hate liberals because you live in America and are mentally ill.
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I know... You're American.
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Hell yeah 👍 now that's what I'm talking about ⚒️
My dad was a neonazi and he loved watching American History X because he enjoyed the representation of his beliefs up on the silver screen.
He was entirely immune to and ignorant of the moralising that underpinned the denouement of the film.
You're suggesting rounding them up for re-education. We suggest that all the time, and yet when we suggest it you call us monsters.
The time for re-education was 10 years ago though. There are far too many fascists now and they are embedded in far too many institutions, the inevitable outcome is already decided and the only pathway out down the line will be violent.