Oh, I believe it, it didn't do me any favors either. Played hell with my ADHD and depression, drove me to drink even more than I already was, and it certainly didn't do any good for my back. Granted, it taught me a few useful skills, but it definitely wasn't worth it on the whole. Anybody who thinks this shit builds character has either never worked a truly soul crushing job before, is thoroughly cucked, or is in total denial as a coping mechanism. I worked with one guy there who fit that last one to a T.