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Hahaha yeah that’s it. I want to be accepted by a cultural milieu from a genre that most people don’t look back on fondly.
Gatekeeping music is highly irritating. I don’t really care if you don’t like it. Just don’t claim it’s because you have some superior understanding of the music or culture. Yuppies liked it therefor I can’t. Imagine approaching your life like that. Hella weird.
You sound like the white moms who complain about their kids listening to hip hop because they’re talking about violence. Except it’s rich white people also listened to disco so now the artist who made the music are bad.
When we’re talking about disco in 2020 it has so many branches like most genres of music. Contemporarily you would be cutting out future funk, French house. Disco House and most vaporwave genres (including labourwave). Disco continues to influence all of them and in quite a significant way.
The only reason it died is because of racism. Burning the disco records (which were actually any record from a black artist) the constant barrage of the Disco Sucks campaigns, calling into radio stations to complain about disco music was lead by young white men to continued the long American tradition of finding any way to hate black people.
that's not true. certain genres of music are spontaneous & truly syncretic & dynamic and influential whereas disco just has John Travolta lol... I am not saying that electronic music would be better without going through an embarrassing disco stage, but it should come as a surprise to no one that DJs from Chicago and Detroit and NY & UK who were fed up with the way disco music was perverted, then evolved house, which isn't disco... because the pop element is mostly removed and independent innovative artists emerged
you're not just gonna both sides the debate about disco music's sudden and total implosion... there are reasons that the genre as a pop cultural cornerstone bottomed out, and same with punk music I would argue, and part of that is because it wasn't something that big labels and corporations merely acquired and opportunistically latched onto, these entities literally invented and tailored it for consumption.
rap and hip hop on the other hand have always been an organic bottom-up artistic tradition that, while largely commercialized and subsumed within corporate consumerist tastemaking, can't functionally ever be rid of its very real & genuine connection to Black experience. disco never had anything to do with real life experience, or like... anything?
So we’re gonna totally forget the origins of hip hop were disco tracks? This music had nothing to do with the experience of black people, but the genres that were birthed from it were?
Hip hop has not always been about the experience of black people nor is it now. One could argue it’s a tool for capitalists to paint a vivid picture of black culture that is inherently not palatable to white people in order to embolden racism. But once again it’s a whole genre of music. Painting it with wide strokes to encapsulate all the different fine strokes of the genre will never give a full understanding.
If you look at most the hip hop songs people listen to today it’s telling you to buy something so others will like you or take some drugs to make yourself feel better. And they’re even “killing” hip hop as we speak by making it a fusion genre. So eventually hip hop will die as well and something else will become the popular music. This is how genres work.
Let’s just look at the names of some of the most famous disco songs and think about how well these things “sell you shit.”
We Are Family
It’s Raining Men
Boogie Wonderland
It’s Your Thing
Workin Day and Night
Last Dance
Shake Your Groove Thing
Stomp!
I Love Music
Disco Inferno
It’s pure dance music. Does that also make it easier to commercialize it, yes? Remember the song “For the Love of Money” by the O’Jays? The opening to the apprentice. What does that song actually say? All the shitty things people do for greed. “The root of all evil.” Kinda ironic huh? What about another O’Jays song “Love Train” telling people to start a love train all around the world. Then used by capitalists to sell us a shitty beer. But let’s blame the artists for their music being bastardized by capitalists?
yes, it does make it historically accurate. it's the same sort of critique people give of KPOP...
whether or not you identify with or love the aesthetic or listen to it, could KPOP exist without the brutal and overtly hypercapitalistic formula and pressures of the big labels? doubtful
Young white cis men killed disco and did it large part because of racism and homophobia. That’s historically accurate. Disco becoming more commercial the more popular it was is the life cycle of all genres.
Disco did not start off as a hypercapitalistic genre nor did it ever become one. That’s historically inaccurate. If it was such a cash machine it would’ve had a longer run.
Disco was only accessible because of the mass commercial popularization in the suburbs through associated movies and dance crazes etc. Van McCoy's probably great, but like "The Hustle" is not really the best shit imo you know?
Hahaha yeah that’s it. I want to be accepted by a cultural milieu from a genre that most people don’t look back on fondly.
Gatekeeping music is highly irritating. I don’t really care if you don’t like it. Just don’t claim it’s because you have some superior understanding of the music or culture. Yuppies liked it therefor I can’t. Imagine approaching your life like that. Hella weird.
You sound like the white moms who complain about their kids listening to hip hop because they’re talking about violence. Except it’s rich white people also listened to disco so now the artist who made the music are bad.
When we’re talking about disco in 2020 it has so many branches like most genres of music. Contemporarily you would be cutting out future funk, French house. Disco House and most vaporwave genres (including labourwave). Disco continues to influence all of them and in quite a significant way.
The only reason it died is because of racism. Burning the disco records (which were actually any record from a black artist) the constant barrage of the Disco Sucks campaigns, calling into radio stations to complain about disco music was lead by young white men to continued the long American tradition of finding any way to hate black people.
no, disco died because it was always just a gimmick
You could say that about every single genre. Doesn’t make it historically accurate.
that's not true. certain genres of music are spontaneous & truly syncretic & dynamic and influential whereas disco just has John Travolta lol... I am not saying that electronic music would be better without going through an embarrassing disco stage, but it should come as a surprise to no one that DJs from Chicago and Detroit and NY & UK who were fed up with the way disco music was perverted, then evolved house, which isn't disco... because the pop element is mostly removed and independent innovative artists emerged
Hahahaha you don’t know anything about disco but what you have been spoon fed.
“Hip hop sucks. All it offers is Lil John.”That’s you
Also you. At least stick with one coherent understanding of the genre.
Lil Jon is amazing, John Travolta kinda sucks lol
Part of the genre is commercialized therefore the whole thing is commercialized.
you're not just gonna both sides the debate about disco music's sudden and total implosion... there are reasons that the genre as a pop cultural cornerstone bottomed out, and same with punk music I would argue, and part of that is because it wasn't something that big labels and corporations merely acquired and opportunistically latched onto, these entities literally invented and tailored it for consumption.
rap and hip hop on the other hand have always been an organic bottom-up artistic tradition that, while largely commercialized and subsumed within corporate consumerist tastemaking, can't functionally ever be rid of its very real & genuine connection to Black experience. disco never had anything to do with real life experience, or like... anything?
So we’re gonna totally forget the origins of hip hop were disco tracks? This music had nothing to do with the experience of black people, but the genres that were birthed from it were?
Hip hop has not always been about the experience of black people nor is it now. One could argue it’s a tool for capitalists to paint a vivid picture of black culture that is inherently not palatable to white people in order to embolden racism. But once again it’s a whole genre of music. Painting it with wide strokes to encapsulate all the different fine strokes of the genre will never give a full understanding.
If you look at most the hip hop songs people listen to today it’s telling you to buy something so others will like you or take some drugs to make yourself feel better. And they’re even “killing” hip hop as we speak by making it a fusion genre. So eventually hip hop will die as well and something else will become the popular music. This is how genres work.
Let’s just look at the names of some of the most famous disco songs and think about how well these things “sell you shit.”
It’s pure dance music. Does that also make it easier to commercialize it, yes? Remember the song “For the Love of Money” by the O’Jays? The opening to the apprentice. What does that song actually say? All the shitty things people do for greed. “The root of all evil.” Kinda ironic huh? What about another O’Jays song “Love Train” telling people to start a love train all around the world. Then used by capitalists to sell us a shitty beer. But let’s blame the artists for their music being bastardized by capitalists?
yes, it does make it historically accurate. it's the same sort of critique people give of KPOP...
whether or not you identify with or love the aesthetic or listen to it, could KPOP exist without the brutal and overtly hypercapitalistic formula and pressures of the big labels? doubtful
Young white cis men killed disco and did it large part because of racism and homophobia. That’s historically accurate. Disco becoming more commercial the more popular it was is the life cycle of all genres.
Disco did not start off as a hypercapitalistic genre nor did it ever become one. That’s historically inaccurate. If it was such a cash machine it would’ve had a longer run.
Disco was only accessible because of the mass commercial popularization in the suburbs through associated movies and dance crazes etc. Van McCoy's probably great, but like "The Hustle" is not really the best shit imo you know?
How it got into white people’s space does not define the genre. Hope we don’t think slim shady represents all of hip hop.
slim shady was actually talented in his own way and had somewhat of an interesting story
Irrelevant to the point I made.