Amazing how quickly they gave up on finger wagging over Israel not allowing in aid supplies

  • coolusername@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    don't they mean militant wing of Hamas? Most of Hamas are probably just paper pushing gov workers

    White House Says Democrats Who Oppose Weapons To Nazis Are Aiding Jews in Polish Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

  • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 hours ago

    If I don't vote, I'm supporting Trump. If I don't want to murder children, I'm supporting Hamas. Maybe if Democrats were able to distinguish between material support and passively existing, they might discover why all the "support" they believe they have keeps turning into fewer and fewer votes.

    • _pi@lemmy.ml
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      3 hours ago

      Not supporting the good guy (The Democratic Party) is supporting the oppressor (whoever we're mad at right now).

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    11 hours ago

    The strategic blunders from the Democrats on all levels is incredible. They're throwing the progressive anti-war libs to the left, they're giving well-meaning libs an experiential crash course in how Hasbara propaganda works.

    The way they have been peeling people off of liberalism recently is just remarkable.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      7 hours ago

      The way they have been peeling people off of liberalism recently is just remarkable.

      The problem is that our "Trump will end democracy if we don't vote against him!" #Resistance media is rapidly transforming into a "Trump is actually cool and good, and we're excited to see what he does next" court full of supplicants. The MSNBC Liberals aren't getting a crash course in how Hasbara works, they're getting an earful of propaganda that they'll inevitably believe.

      Liberals are being peeled off, but they're not turning left. They're going to be diverted into "We need to be more fascist if we want to win elections" Bush Era conservatism. The leftists, meanwhile, are going to keep getting the OWS/BLM/anti-Genocide treatment. We're already seeing that with the naked hostility aimed at Sarah McBride. Nevermind the treatment of Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman.

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        24 minutes ago

        The MSNBC Liberals aren't getting a crash course in how Hasbara works

        I was thinking more like the well-meaning libs who oppose war or want to see military aid to Israel being stopped.

        Being called a Hamas-sympathiser is going to be a slap in the face and I think it's going to make them realise how often Hasbara trolls resort to claiming everything is Hamas. It would be hard to go back to believing the narratives coming out of Israel after a wake-up call like that.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        4 hours ago

        Liberals siding with Fascists, a love story as old as time somewhere in the interwar period.

    • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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      13 hours ago

      i think it's a bubble effect of the democrats who have lost touch with americans.

      3 out of the 5 software developer leftists that first introduced me to marxist/leninist theory switched to either becoming a hard core capitalist or keep their mouths shut because of the disgustingly high salaries they get from their software engineering jobs.

      • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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        6 hours ago

        Cowards, all. The opportunity to be a class traitor to the worst of all classes is the only reason to even have a software job.

        • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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          4 hours ago

          the worst part for me is that i really like them as people; i aspired to emulate one once in a few ways.

      • _pi@lemmy.ml
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        11 hours ago

        i think it’s a bubble effect of the democrats who have lost touch with americans.

        I don't think they were in touch to begin with. The plain fact is that 2015-2021 everyone who wasn't in MAGA was cosplaying.

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    12 hours ago

    Dems being Bush Republicans example #7263627

    If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists

    • DerRedMax [comrade/them, any]
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      6 hours ago

      Damn. That takes me back in time!

      I remember being outraged by that. I went to protests with people who were also outraged by that.

      It was a driver for me to go out and find what little media was outraged about it, too, which at the time was Maddow and Majority Report.

      Hearing that the Democrats are using the same argument is shocking, because it was plain as day that was not even an argument based on reality. The whole time I thought those people in the media shared that same understanding of reality. Apparently not.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      8 hours ago

      It's 2004, and not wanting to tear a nation asunder while killing many thousands is seen as terroristic dissent

      It's 2024, and not wanting to tear a nation asunder while killing many thousands is seen as terroristic dissent

      manhattan

  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    “The fact that they didn’t send a formal [Statement of Administration Policy] is a sign that they are too ashamed to put these arguments on White House letterhead,” a Senate aide argued.

    🤦

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      6 hours ago

      This palace intrigue brainworm that Amerikkkans have is all the proof that is necessary that this entire cursed empire must be reduced to dust (and there's plenty more proof besides). If a real human being ever says anything like this to me I will rapidly open and close my hand in front of their face and say "huh?" repeatedly until they develop class consciousness.