Yeah no, fuck that shit. Not going to be lectured about how we should handle woman haters with kid gloves because they can't handle rejection.
Like holy shit apparently getting rejected is only hard for cis men and it's really fucking important. Guess what, it sucks for women just as much. Women get rejected too, but no one cares. Hell, no one even believes it because that sexism runs deep. Wait, actually no it sucks more for women because dating isn't just putting your pride on the line, it's risking assault and verbal abuse everytime too. Oh but on top of that they get to hear from incels (and the media) about how easy it is for women to date. But again, no one gives a shit, because they're women, so who cares.
Meanwhile everywhere you look the media is discussing "Oh these poor frustrated young men. What a crisis. Oh those mean feminists! What do we do?" Because shit that's just silently accepted as normal for everyone else to go through is apparently a crisis if it happens to a cis dude.
I'm not going to accommodate a scratched misogynist any more than I would a scratched liberal.
No shit, but incels view anything with women in a totally transactional manner with sex involved so the idea of being friends with the opposite sex without fucking is alien to them.
The absolute irony of this is that they view everything with women in a transactional manner yet are unwilling to pay a sex worker for the sex they want. 🤦🏼♀️
Having spent some time in the mra/mgtow adjacent manosphere during my shithead phase they absolutely don't want to because it like doesn't "count" according to them if you pay for sex. It feels like it's just moving the goal posts so they can remain stuck in their misery of being lonely tbh
Honestly, I can see how the conclusion follows from the incredibly fucked premise.
A common assumption in society is that if you are a virgin past a certain age, it must be because you're a completely repulsive, inferior human being. Having sex thus becomes the only way to prove that you have some sort of redeeming value, that you aren't some subhuman abomination. Sex with a prostitute doesn't confer this humanizing legitimacy because a prostitute doesn't really want to have sex with you; they're just willing to put up with doing so for money, much in the same way that a sewer worker is willing to wade in feces for a paycheck.
Yeah it follows a painful fucked logic.
Oh I was bad, totally into incel shit and fashy memes off 4chan. Not to excuse it but I was heavily drinking at the time too. Stereotypical it was right after a break up with a woman I wanted to marry so I was super bitter.
I'm sorry if I am wrong, but it doesn't seem to me like there is any "moving of the goal posts" or "painful fucked up logic" here. It is not at all strange or weird or wrong to want to be wanted for yourself. There seems to me to be a clear difference between sex with an intimate partner who also desires sex with you for the sake of it, and the clearly transactional nature of employing the services of a sex worker. It is only if we buy into the patriarchal misogynistic transactional logic of the incel themselves that these two acts are at all comparable. (sorry if there is some misogynistic logic in my argument or if there is something I am missing here (please tell me if there is), but I just really don't know how to read your posts in any other way (edit: like i can't read your post in any other way than it criticizing incels for not following through in their misogynistic logic, as if that logic in itself wasn't the problem to begin with))