• Sprinklebump@lemm.ee
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    Other people understood that I was being sarcastic as well.

    Well you got me. Maybe im not in the mood for jokes. I am so tired of having these conversation. It makes me so sad to see people supporting these countries.

    Russia and china are not examples of a good government. Neither is the usa. I feel like im taking crazy pills.

    Why did you single Sankara's Burkina Faso out when speaking of exceptions to authoritarian communism

    Because i know about him and agree with many things that he did. Not everything, but he didnt build an imperialst nation. He fought for literacy and nutrition and anti corruption.

    He didnt build a survelence network or invade another nation to my knowledge.

    He fought for his people using the principles revolutionary communism and ML. This I support.

    Just like i can recognize that the CPC does provide many valuable things to it citizens . While also recognizing that they are still authoritarnian.

    Rephrased: If your one exception to "authoritarian communism" is a government that was overthrown by imperialism, what does this say about the use of authority in revolutionary states?

    I dont know. Im not here to tell you how sankara could of avoided assassination. But I do feel that acting like Sankara is the same as the cpc/russia in any real way is kinda absurd.

    Cuba is better example of communism than cpc. Once again they have problems.

    Ultimately i am an anarchist, i dont think communism is the solution long term, but i would work with communists, As long as they didnt support large authoritarian governments.

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      • Sprinklebump@lemm.ee
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        Communism is the absence of the state and the withering away of class distinctions.

        So is the USSR not communist by your definition?

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          • Sprinklebump@lemm.ee
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            but stating that “communism isn’t the solution long term” makes no sense. Do you understand the distinction?

            I feel this is like syamtics. Anarchist are socialists as well. but if some told me "I dont think anarchy is the way foward"

            I dont think it would be fair for me to say to " no you mean socialism, Anarchy is the Goal! not the current situation"

            It doesnt make sense to think that communism isnt the solution? This makes me feel like communists are unable to have real discussion with anarchists about the flaws within communism.

            I feel anarchy is the only real way to gaurentee long term that people will be continually liberated. I think that any real hierarchical system will enventually turn back into a police state. We saw this in the USSR. And we see in in the CPC too.

            They once had revolutionary components which I support. But those begin to dwindle the minute they took power and likey before.

            From the origins of revolutionary communism came a police state. How do MLs deal with the flaws shown in The USSR? By saying that it wasn't communist?

            This is what I mean when I say i dont think communism is the solution long term. That communists governments have a tendency to turn toward police states. Call it what you want but lenin was a marxist from my understanding and marxist are considered communists. Right?

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              • Sprinklebump@lemm.ee
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                if you are referring to the method and work (aka. Marxism/ML), is something that you have asserted but not proven.

                https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-alexander-berkman-bolsheviks-shooting-anarchists

                "But of all the revolutionary elements in Russia it is the Anarchists who now suffer the most ruthless and systematic persecution. Their suppression by the Bolsheviki began already in 1918, when — in the month of April of that year — the Communist Government attacked, without provocation or warning, the Anarchist Club of Moscow and by the use of machine guns and artillery “liquidated” the whole organisation."

                Emma goldman

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                  • Sprinklebump@lemm.ee
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                    to the false narrative of Bolshevik betrayal and anarchist victimhood which she is attempting to create.

                    Do you have any evidence that this is false or do you just not like it?

                    Alls I hear is a lot of what aboutism.

                    "Emma goldman is writing about anarchist being murdered but whatabout the the bad things anarchists did? "

                    Emma goldman was a russia born anarchist critiquing The USSR.

                    Are you going to respond the to claims they are making or are you going to cherry pick out the racist stuff?

                    We can stop honeslty. if you believe that anarchism is eurofacism we have very little to talk about.