cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/23689894
from #972Magazine [published in Israel]
By Ahmed Moor
December 17, 2024
Democrats and university admins just ran a standard PR playbook. They depend on students' naivete to succeed at it, and that worked. Several encampmentd accepted mere promises of consideration to disband while others got stronger concess but without them actually being in hand, which were easy to renege on.
For campus protest to work against something as entrenched as Zionism, these lessons need to be learned and consistently passed on and there need to be strong ties to orgs outside the university that can provide seasoned advice.
This is, unfortunately, not borne out by the data. I wish we had this kind of impact, but no, Harris did pretty much as good as Biden in battleground states, which is very good compared to previous elections. Rural votes for Trump just came out way harder for racist scare tactics than ever before.
this is not true. Trump's total votes barely went up, it was the Democrats total votes plummeted. Total voter turnout was way down, especially for Democrats. Things like this absolutely lead to disengagement from the political process, the media just ignores and downplays it
2020 popular vote totals:
Biden: 81,283,501
Trump: 74,223,975
Total: ~155 million
2024 popular vote totals:
Harris: 74,983,555
Trump: 77,269,255
Total: ~152 million
Democrats lost 7 million votes while Trump only gained 3 million. Where did those 4 million people go? They stayed home because Democrats are liars and backstabbers who continually betray their own base and self sabotage.
The national popular vote is a vibes-check at best. In nearly every state that matters, Harris did better than Biden, and in the ONE state that she didn't, she did worse by ~90k votes. In those states, (again, the ones that decided the election), Trump voters just turned out more than they did in 2020.
PA Biden: 3,377,674 Harris: 3,423,042
AZ Biden: 1,672,143 Harris: 1,582,860
NV Biden: 669,890 Harris: 705,197
GA Biden: 2,461,854 Harris: 2,548,017
NC Biden: 2,684,292 Harris: 2,715,380
WI Biden: 1,610,184 Harris: 1,668,229
MI Biden: 2,649,852 Harris: 2,736,533
The economy is going great and the genocide does not matter. Democrats did amazing as well but somehow Trump won. Who knows why. Must be the border bill Harris should have been tougher on immigration!
just to be clear: fuck the dems.
That said, we that protest their awful shit just didn't have the impact that stories like this make it seem like we did which is sad and horrifying for different reasons.
The protests also killed the youth turnout and all progressive activism. The people who are normally at the forefront of activism were now fighting against the Dems. Enthousiam was utterly dead for Democrats. The low turnout is all the evidence needed. People did not even feel like going out to vote Democrat as they do not believe it mattered.
Agreed...people who are generally not in battleground states. It's clearly something that could impact future elections, but it's also pretty clear that it didn't have a strong impact on this election. There is no evidence of low Democrat turnout in battleground states.
